Who are you trading up for? | FinHeaven - Miami Dolphins Forums

Who are you trading up for?

The Ghost

Stamos
Super Donator
Club Member
Joined
Aug 14, 2005
Messages
18,450
Reaction score
36,836
Location
Bethlehem, Pa
Let me start by saying I don't expect our first selection to be 102 overall. That won't happen, they know they need to find two contributors from this draft.

Trading into the first round isn't an option so let's just move past that one. I am not looking to move either of our 2023 firsts because that's going to be the basis of my 2023 off season as we shouldn't expect to be very active in FA next year.

Tradable assets? First and fore most DVP. He's still a prototype WR with some elite traits, we obviously know his down side but for a team in win now mode he has value. I'd estimate his value at about the same value as our 4th rounder at 102, in a straight up comparison. I don't want the 130th pick or so for the guy, if I trade him. Id rather keep him on the roster if that's the case. If he can be used in tandem with pick 102 to get yourself up to the late 2nd or early first, you gotta strongly consider.

Austin Jackson/Liam Eichenberg, obviously makes sense to keep both if you can and let the situation play out on the field but if you get a decent offer from a team that's desperate and you can hang onto the player that you prefer of the too, that would be another way to trade up for a more impactful prospect.

While I am interested in trading our 2023 firsts, I feel different about our 2023 2nd and 3rd rounders. With the extra first we can afford to give up those kind of picks, especially if you expect to go deep into the post season. I am expecting my 2nd rounder to be 64th overall. With Bridgewater on the roster we'll have the security of knowing we would be in much better hands than we were with Brissett, should that situation arise. Our 2023 2nd will be in the 50's or later. We've added a lot of young players to our roster in the last 3 years, we are better suited to move 2nd's and 3rd's than just about any other team.

I'd love to add a RB, C, LB and Punter in this draft and I don't want to do it with picks in the 150-200 range, out of the punter.

I like the RB additions we made but I also want to make sure we take the next step in that phase of our offense. I'd love to get Kenneth Walker or Breece Hall on the roster and really cement that position.

Michael Dieter is just a place a holder right now for the center position. You gotta get a long term guy in that spot. That might be priority one right now if it's not addressed in FA. The BC kid Lidstrom obviously makes a lot of sense. Maybe you can snag him in the early/mid 3rd and make a move if someone is willing to make a deal.

Elandon Roberts is a really good backup. Chad Muma would be an interestingly awesome replacement for him.

Anyone you guys think you might have an eye on mid to late 2nd round that might become attainable?

While we won't be taking a WR in the draft but that Christian Watson looks like a stallion. I don't even want to say who he reminds me of athletically.
 
Trade Austin Jackson and Noah Igbanabread before it’s too late. Anyone remember Jimmy Johnson trading bust first rounder Billy Milner to the Rams for Troy Drayton? If we can swing something like that - before there is more tape on these guys - I say go for it.
 
I hope Grier picks up the phone and calls Philly. Ask them what it would take to get one of their 1st round picks. Start wilth Parker and Dieter. Don't make the trade until draft night and make sure Linderbaum is still there to be drafted. Philly could use Dieter to back up Kelce, while getting mentored for a year. Parker could be slotted in as WR2 for them.
 
Trade Austin Jackson and Noah Igbanabread before it’s too late. Anyone remember Jimmy Johnson trading bust first rounder Billy Milner to the Rams for Troy Drayton? If we can swing something like that - before there is more tape on these guys - I say go for it.
I can’t imagine either of them would be worth trading at this point; the picks would most likely end up being on day 3. Would be swapping guys who might not make the roster for more guys who might not make the roster.
 
I hope Grier picks up the phone and calls Philly. Ask them what it would take to get one of their 1st round picks. Start wilth Parker and Dieter. Don't make the trade until draft night and make sure Linderbaum is still there to be drafted. Philly could use Dieter to back up Kelce, while getting mentored for a year. Parker could be slotted in as WR2 for them.

You'd have to include our 2023 first to get pick 19. Pretty sure the Eagles aren't going for that.

Pick 19 would take Parker, 2023 first and 2024 third.

I don't see us doing that one.

Linderbaum would have to fall to Green Bay's pick at 28 for us to have a chance at something like that. The Linderbaum ship has sailed IMO.
 
I hope Grier picks up the phone and calls Philly. Ask them what it would take to get one of their 1st round picks. Start wilth Parker and Dieter. Don't make the trade until draft night and make sure Linderbaum is still there to be drafted. Philly could use Dieter to back up Kelce, while getting mentored for a year. Parker could be slotted in as WR2 for them.
I don’t think Parker and Dieter even gets you a 3rd round pick tbh. Even if they highly valued Dieter he is on the last year of his rookie contract and would need to sign an extension.
 
I can’t imagine either of them would be worth trading at this point; the picks would most likely end up being on day 3. Would be swapping guys who might not make the roster for more guys who might not make the roster.

Ya unfortunately your best bet with either is to use them to move up in a package to improve one of our picks.

Rebuilding teams should have somewhat of an interest in some of our younger non impactful players.

Also some veteran teams need cheap starters with experience and any shred of potential so they could command something that could be considered of value.
 
Think we could slide into the end of the first to grab Nakobe Dean if we traded Parker and two thirds.
 
I don’t think Parker and Dieter even gets you a 3rd round pick tbh. Even if they highly valued Dieter he is on the last year of his rookie contract and would need to sign an extension.

Ya I agree, I desperately want to replace Dieter so I don't see him as having much value either.

I estimated Parker's worth to be about the same value as our first pick, 102 overall, to a team that really needs him, like GB or Philly, he could be worth something in the range of 85-95 in terms of value.

I don't see much more than that although you consider that teams have given up late second picks for WR's they've gotten nothing out of, (J.Jones and M.Sanu come to mind) so anything is possible.

We're better off using Parker and pick 102 as a package to improve our first pick.
 
The only way they should trade up would be if someone they value highly falls late second or early third and even then make it a 102 and next years third or 4th. Parker has way too much value on this team and when teams called last week, Grier likely set a high price and with nothing happening with him it is likely that teams would wait until after the draft for any trades.
 
The only way they should trade up would be if someone they value highly falls late second or early third and even then make it a 102 and next years third or 4th. Parker has way too much value on this team and when teams called last week, Grier likely set a high price and with nothing happening with him it is likely that teams would wait until after the draft for any trades.
I was about to post the same thing. I'd reach out to a few teams to gauge approximately what it would take to move up (either to the late 2nd or early 3rd) and not spring it unless a player the team really wants starts falling.
 
I hope Grier picks up the phone and calls Philly. Ask them what it would take to get one of their 1st round picks. Start wilth Parker and Dieter. Don't make the trade until draft night and make sure Linderbaum is still there to be drafted. Philly could use Dieter to back up Kelce, while getting mentored for a year. Parker could be slotted in as WR2 for them.
I don’t see the Eagles giving up more than a 5th or 6 th round for Parker and they wouldn’t want Dieter.
Perhaps the Eagles would give up one of their 3 first round picks for both of Miami’s 2023 first round picks plus Parker but I don’t see anyone in this draft worth 2 first round picks in 2023.

Maybe Miami can trade their 3rd round pick plus a 4th pick and a 2023 third round pick to move into the second round but that’s about as high as I see them moving up this year.
 
I don’t see the Eagles giving up more than a 5th or 6 th round for Parker and they wouldn’t want Dieter.
Perhaps the Eagles would give up one of their 3 first round picks for both of Miami’s 2023 first round picks plus Parker but I don’t see anyone in this draft worth 2 first round picks in 2023.

Maybe Miami can trade their 3rd round pick plus a 4th pick and a 2023 third round pick to move into the second round but that’s about as high as I see them moving up this year.
First off why wouldn't Philly want Dieter? Again Kelce is gone after next year and Dieter is young and can learn a lot from Kelce next year. Also Philly really needs another WR and Parker is a #2 so they well may give up better than a 5th for him.
Are you serious thinking Miami would give up 2 first next year plus a #2 WR for 1 first this year? LMAO. Also not even giving the last option you mentioned a thought either.
 
Back
Top Bottom