Who has had more success?

[CHAMBERS8484]

Let me throw an obvious question out there:

Who has had more success as a quarterback, Daunte or Joey?

Obviously the answer is Daunte. He has won a playoff game, made the bro bowl multiple times, and whoever says it was because of moss has their head up their ***. I don't care who is on your team, you have to be somewhat decent to have years where his td to ints were
2000:33 to 16, 2001:14 to 13, 2002:18 to 23, 2003:25 to 11, 2004:39 to 11
Now we all know what happened last year and this year bla bla, but a quarterback doesn't suddenly wake up one day and say "I think I'm gonna suck *** now" No, it doesnt happen that way. Drops in performance comes from a change on the team, offensive system or losing a reciever. Remember he did terrible in two games, then he did alright until the injury.

Honestly I know Daunte is sucking, it doesnt take a genious to figure it out. However, if he can improve every week and get back into rhythm by the bye week, we will make the playoffs. We know what Daunte is at his full potential, a superstar. We know what Joey is at his full potential, possibly a tad bit better than Gus was last year, but still pretty aweful in at least half of our games. Joey is being made to be a god by many people on this forum, but do you remember what he did in detroit. There is no guarantee that he will be better just because he is in Miami. I say we stick with Daunte, let him improve, and if the season is out of reach then we can talk about backups. I don't think Saban is dumb enough to put in Joey now, and I hope I'm not wrong.

Am I totally off base in saying playing Daunte has more upside?

 

[PerfectFinz72]

Let me throw an obvious question out there:

Who has had more success as a quarterback, Daunte or Joey?

Obviously the answer is Daunte. He has won a playoff game, made the bro bowl multiple times, and whoever says it was because of moss has their head up their ***. I don't care who is on your team, you have to be somewhat decent to have years where his td to ints were
2000:33 to 16, 2001:14 to 13, 2002:18 to 23, 2003:25 to 11, 2004:39 to 11
Now we all know what happened last year and this year bla bla, but a quarterback doesn't suddenly wake up one day and say "I think I'm gonna suck *** now" No, it doesnt happen that way. Drops in performance comes from a change on the team, offensive system or losing a reciever. Remember he did terrible in two games, then he did alright until the injury.

Honestly I know Daunte is sucking, it doesnt take a genious to figure it out. However, if he can improve every week and get back into rhythm by the bye week, we will make the playoffs. We know what Daunte is at his full potential, a superstar. We know what Joey is at his full potential, possibly a tad bit better than Gus was last year, but still pretty aweful in at least half of our games. Joey is being made to be a god by many people on this forum, but do you remember what he did in detroit. There is no guarantee that he will be better just because he is in Miami. I say we stick with Daunte, let him improve, and if the season is out of reach then we can talk about backups. I don't think Saban is dumb enough to put in Joey now, and I hope I'm not wrong.

Am I totally off base in saying playing Daunte has more upside?

He absolutely does. The natural thing for fans to do is overeact and to call for the other guy. The other guy being Harrington in this situation. But calling for the other guy generally pans out well here. See Ray Lucas, AJ Feeley and Brian Griese. :shakeno:

I dont understand the obcession with Joey. Give Daunte more than 3 games before calling for his head.

 

[Bill C]

Here is the problem - Daunte looked lost in preseason and the offense showed no rhythm or flow. The same has continued in the regular season.

However, when Joey came in in preseason, with and against the same players that C-Pep was with/facing, the offense came alive and there was much more rhythm and pace to it.

That's what everyone saw and continues to see with C-Pep. Everything is a step and a half too slow with him in there right now. If it's due to the injury - then get him out until he's healthy.

 

[Tropical Swarm]

Let me throw an obvious question out there:

Who has had more success as a quarterback, Daunte or Joey?

Obviously the answer is Daunte. He has won a playoff game, made the bro bowl multiple times, and whoever says it was because of moss has their head up their ***. I don't care who is on your team, you have to be somewhat decent to have years where his td to ints were
2000:33 to 16, 2001:14 to 13, 2002:18 to 23, 2003:25 to 11, 2004:39 to 11
Now we all know what happened last year and this year bla bla, but a quarterback doesn't suddenly wake up one day and say "I think I'm gonna suck *** now" No, it doesnt happen that way. Drops in performance comes from a change on the team, offensive system or losing a reciever. Remember he did terrible in two games, then he did alright until the injury.

Honestly I know Daunte is sucking, it doesnt take a genious to figure it out. However, if he can improve every week and get back into rhythm by the bye week, we will make the playoffs. We know what Daunte is at his full potential, a superstar. We know what Joey is at his full potential, possibly a tad bit better than Gus was last year, but still pretty aweful in at least half of our games. Joey is being made to be a god by many people on this forum, but do you remember what he did in detroit. There is no guarantee that he will be better just because he is in Miami. I say we stick with Daunte, let him improve, and if the season is out of reach then we can talk about backups. I don't think Saban is dumb enough to put in Joey now, and I hope I'm not wrong.

Am I totally off base in saying playing Daunte has more upside?

Daunte has played worse then joey would have

 

[CHAMBERS8484]

Here is the problem - Daunte looked lost in preseason and the offense showed no rhythm or flow. The same has continued in the regular season.

However, when Joey came in in preseason, with and against the same players that C-Pep was with/facing, the offense came alive and there was much more rhythm and pace to it.

That's what everyone saw and continues to see with C-Pep. Everything is a step and a half too slow with him in there right now. If it's due to the injury - then get him out until he's healthy.

Are you nuts, daunte played against starters, joey against backups, that's the concept of the preseason.

 

[SigmaOmega]

i dont believe that throwing another qb into the fray is going to do anything. Each qb has a different rythm on how he does things...i dont think its fair to the other players to have to learn, during the game, how the other guy works and thinks....give daunte some time. Enough of this "Bench Daunted, Bring in Joey" garbage.

 

[fInbred]

Can we one day stop the "who had more success" business? DC did a lot better in Min than JH did in Det. Good for DC, but they're both in Miami now. In Miami DC has been subpar to say the least. He's not making throws, looks confused, and is not giving us a chance to win. The team is not playing well enough to carry a struggling QB. So far while in Mia JH has looked comfortable and played efficient. To continue to play a struggling QB because he used to be good 2 years ago is just not smart. What's the worst that could happen if JH plays? He might skip balls off the ground to his receivers, throw stupid picks, take too long to get rid the ball? Big change from what we have now. To say you never want to see what JH has got because he didn't play well in Det is not too smart either. If DC can't get it together by the first half of the next game, you gotta make a change. Put yur Daunte man-crushes aside, folks. This is a business as well as a game.

 

[fInbred]

i dont believe that throwing another qb into the fray is going to do anything. Each qb has a different rythm on how he does things...i dont think its fair to the other players to have to learn, during the game, how the other guy works and thinks....give daunte some time. Enough of this "Bench Daunted, Bring in Joey" garbage.

you want the team to get used to what daunte's doing? dear lord man. daunte's "rythm" is what's not fair to the other players.

 

[clbrazee]

Here is the problem - Daunte looked lost in preseason and the offense showed no rhythm or flow. The same has continued in the regular season.

However, when Joey came in in preseason, with and against the same players that C-Pep was with/facing, the offense came alive and there was much more rhythm and pace to it.

That's what everyone saw and continues to see with C-Pep. Everything is a step and a half too slow with him in there right now. If it's due to the injury - then get him out until he's healthy.

Statements right on.

 

[SigmaOmega]

you want the team to get used to what daunte's doing? dear lord man. daunte's "rythm" is what's not fair to the other players.

Considering half your posts are saying Joey is better (with multiple exclamation marks on a few) then im just going to disregard ur comment because then we'll just be arguing the same points that are in other threads...and ill say i wont bash your opinion...to each their own.

 

[finintheburgh]

Let me throw an obvious question out there:

Who has had more success as a quarterback, Daunte or Joey?

Obviously the answer is Daunte. He has won a playoff game, made the bro bowl multiple times, and whoever says it was because of moss has their head up their ***. I don't care who is on your team, you have to be somewhat decent to have years where his td to ints were
2000:33 to 16, 2001:14 to 13, 2002:18 to 23, 2003:25 to 11, 2004:39 to 11
Now we all know what happened last year and this year bla bla, but a quarterback doesn't suddenly wake up one day and say "I think I'm gonna suck *** now" No, it doesnt happen that way. Drops in performance comes from a change on the team, offensive system or losing a reciever. Remember he did terrible in two games, then he did alright until the injury.

Honestly I know Daunte is sucking, it doesnt take a genious to figure it out. However, if he can improve every week and get back into rhythm by the bye week, we will make the playoffs. We know what Daunte is at his full potential, a superstar. We know what Joey is at his full potential, possibly a tad bit better than Gus was last year, but still pretty aweful in at least half of our games. Joey is being made to be a god by many people on this forum, but do you remember what he did in detroit. There is no guarantee that he will be better just because he is in Miami. I say we stick with Daunte, let him improve, and if the season is out of reach then we can talk about backups. I don't think Saban is dumb enough to put in Joey now, and I hope I'm not wrong.

Am I totally off base in saying playing Daunte has more upside?

listen daunte was up and down his whole career in the NFL. hes had good seasons and hes had bad seasons.i dont think that he has shown any signs of starting an up swing. right now he is on the down swing.and the problem with downswings is that sometimes they never turn around.
i agree that we have seen daunte at his fullest pontential in 04,but the problem is it is 2006.and we need to quit talking about him like he is still a probowl type player,because hes not.he way to turnover prone and if you havent noticed he sucks under pressure.
now i disagree about joey, we have never seen him at full potential.maybe we never will.but its funny how problems with minny are because of all the player but in det it was because of jh. i dont have a crystal about who will be better but i do think that dc will be gone before he gets 6 mil ayear from us.

 

[CubanCulebra]

Let me throw an obvious question out there:

Who has had more success as a quarterback, Daunte or Joey?

Obviously the answer is Daunte. He has won a playoff game, made the bro bowl multiple times, and whoever says it was because of moss has their head up their ***. I don't care who is on your team, you have to be somewhat decent to have years where his td to ints were
2000:33 to 16, 2001:14 to 13, 2002:18 to 23, 2003:25 to 11, 2004:39 to 11
Now we all know what happened last year and this year bla bla, but a quarterback doesn't suddenly wake up one day and say "I think I'm gonna suck *** now" No, it doesnt happen that way. Drops in performance comes from a change on the team, offensive system or losing a reciever. Remember he did terrible in two games, then he did alright until the injury.

Honestly I know Daunte is sucking, it doesnt take a genious to figure it out. However, if he can improve every week and get back into rhythm by the bye week, we will make the playoffs. We know what Daunte is at his full potential, a superstar. We know what Joey is at his full potential, possibly a tad bit better than Gus was last year, but still pretty aweful in at least half of our games. Joey is being made to be a god by many people on this forum, but do you remember what he did in detroit. There is no guarantee that he will be better just because he is in Miami. I say we stick with Daunte, let him improve, and if the season is out of reach then we can talk about backups. I don't think Saban is dumb enough to put in Joey now, and I hope I'm not wrong.

Am I totally off base in saying playing Daunte has more upside?

How do we know this when YOU YOURSELF just alluded to the fact that a change of team, offensive system or reciever can lead to a change in performance? By that account, WHY IS IT SO LUDICROUS TO BELIEVE THAT JOEY HARRINGTON COULD BE A GREAT QB WITH THE MIAMI DOLPHINS? You are completely Culpepper biast and your opinion staind and useless. You want time? Buy a watch. I want production. These guys get paid more money in a year than I'll ever be lucky enough to see in my life. I root for Daunte because he's in a Dolphin uniform. I don't care if it's one of the "Queer eye for the Straight Guys" out there throwing TD's as long as he's throwing them. Pitty or patience have to be earned. Marino did his time and was beloved even through the worst of his career. Daunte has done ZILCH for aqua and orange! All I want is a little Dolphin pride. See, I'm biast aswell- when it comes to the Miami Dolphins, I won't accept anything but success.

 

[Dolfan32323]

Here is the problem - Daunte looked lost in preseason and the offense showed no rhythm or flow. The same has continued in the regular season.

However, when Joey came in in preseason, with and against the same players that C-Pep was with/facing, the offense came alive and there was much more rhythm and pace to it.

That's what everyone saw and continues to see with C-Pep. Everything is a step and a half too slow with him in there right now. If it's due to the injury - then get him out until he's healthy.

yes exactly. I support Daunte (I have 2 jerseys including a minn. one) but he does not look physically ready to be out there. he is out of rhythm and is not stepping into his throws. let joey play until Daunte's knee heals!

 

[littlemarino]

Yes!!! what good is it doing to have an injured QB playing. His confidence is just going to take as much of a beating as his body. Im from Minnesota, and he almost never got sacked because he was so big and strong, I have seen him get sacked more in the last couple of weeks than all the rest of the games I watched.(it seems) I did see numerous game losing fumbles, but not very many sacks. Let him heal and come back a beast, or maybe Joey will re-ignite his carreer and that would be ok too.

 

[Syra39]

During the game, TV analyst and former quarterback, Rich Gannon showing stop action tapes, said that Culpepper was slow getting away from center, that he didn't look comfortable and he is hobbling. the main thing he was throwing alot with his arm and not stepping into his throws. His sideway movement was labored and only straight ahead running was good. I noticed his handoffs to Ronnie Brown were very stiff. Daunte is having touble reading the defense and thus doesn't adjust to blitzs. I want him to succeed as much as anybody but repetition and playing time isn't going to help.