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Who is going to get the personnel decisions right Dolphins or Ravens and Car.

I think the biggest reason Turner was cut was because he seriously showed zero fight in the past two games. Watch him. He gives up a sack and just stands there like its not his issue. Not only that but even when he engaged he barely engaged or did it so half-assed.
 
I'm going to say...not the Dolphins...Don't know the scenario, but personnel and Dolphins and you can take the loss almost every time.
 
It seemed to me that Dave Gettlemen (Car GM) was getting a little too ****y or overconfident after one stand-out year, so he can be hit or miss. The guy gets rid of his two best corners and starts two mid-round rookies at CB. As I said before the season started, Carolina (and Cam newton) is only good every other year. Once again they are struggling big time.

Ozzie has been hit or miss in the draft for the last several years so he is not infallible either.

Billy Turner can still turn it around. I think he should have been a left guard only. If the coaches had put him there and left him there, things may have been different. He played the left side in college so that should have been an easier transition. I still don't see the play strength in pass protection from him. 3 years in the league and he still doesn't have the core strength to anchor. Sure he is a better run blocker but if you are good at one aspect and terrible at the other....you are a backup.

Benwikere should be fine if they play him at nickle ONLY. They go sticking him outside for lack of better options and he will struggle just like the rest of our corners.

Just my opinion.
 
maybe both teams were right to cut them? I'm pretty sure Turner was never going to work out for us

Ozzy rules!!
 
Eesti said:
Billy Turner can still turn it around. I think he should have been a left guard only. If the coaches had put him there and left him there, things may have been different. He played the left side in college so that should have been an easier transition. I still don't see the play strength in pass protection from him. 3 years in the league and he still doesn't have the core strength to anchor.
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As an o-lineman you'll regularly face bigger, faster, and stronger athletes on the other side of the ball. Strength on the o-line has nothing to do with one's ability to gain leverage. It all comes from proper technique and that stems from being well coached.
 
Colostomy Bag said:
As an o-lineman you'll regularly face bigger, faster, and stronger athletes on the other side of the ball. Strength on the o-line has nothing to do with one's ability to gain leverage. It all comes from proper technique and that stems from being well coached.
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I think in Turner's case he just will not have proper and consistent technique and goes beyond coaching. As much as the crap Philbin gets around here, I know a few people who played for him and said he may not have been the best players coach but he knew his stuff and was a good teacher, especially when it came to the O-line.

Turner is just an inconsistent player and forgets proper technique more often than not.
 
Albert Romano said:
NFL teams pay a lot of money to men who watch tape and judge players and decide whether the athletes should serve on their roster. And these men get it right some. And these men get it wrong a lot. The ones who are wrong less often typically are considered the really good ones. http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolp...ight-dolphins-or-the-ravens-and-panthers.html
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Dolphin history Sign Brice McCain, the NFL's second? best slot CB the prior year and play him on the boundary. Sign Byron Maxwell because he was miscast in Philly Sign Benwikere? Yet to be seen. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. He's a nickel CB AND he was covering Julio.
 
Billy turner played the game with zero fight...
lets not act like he had never played left tackle..
I didnt expect him to play well i expect a young kid who is getting told he is starting right before the game to come out and show some damn fire
 
fansinceGWilson said:
Dolphin history Sign Brice McCain, the NFL's second? best slot CB the prior year and play him on the boundary. Sign Byron Maxwell because he was miscast in Philly Sign Benwikere? Yet to be seen. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. He's a nickel CB AND he was covering Julio.
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but if I read correctly elsewhere Joseph wants to start him at boundary first maybe nickel later.
 
RobertHorry said:
I think in Turner's case he just will not have proper and consistent technique and goes beyond coaching. As much as the crap Philbin gets around here, I know a few people who played for him and said he may not have been the best players coach but he knew his stuff and was a good teacher, especially when it came to the O-line.

Turner is just an inconsistent player and forgets proper technique more often than not.
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I can dig that. I also have a lot of respect for OL coach Jon Benton who was here with Philbin as well.
 
Disclaimer- I'm responding before reading the article, which is something I not really a fan of, but doing so since I believe the answer is obvious...

The winner is the team who didn't waste a draft pick to obtain the services of a player who is at worst a needed body and at best a project.
Billu Turner can be awful in Baltimore and it doesn't matter, they didn't waste a third round pick on him.
Same thing for the CB the Dilphins brought in. If it works great, if not there really wasn't much of a risk.
There's not too much to draw from these type of desperate moves where you're selecting what you can from a limited player pool. So again the only real conclusion is the negative from the team that wasted valuable resources on them in the first place.
 
"Benwikere should be fine if they play him at nickle ONLY. They go sticking him outside for lack of better options and he will struggle just like the rest of our corners."

And, apparently, that's exactly what the Lolphins are going to do; play him on the boundary.

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"There's not too much to draw from these type of desperate moves where you're selecting what you can from a limited player pool. So again the only real conclusion is the negative from the team that wasted valuable resources on them in the first place."

I like your point here.
 
Nobody signs as many nickel corners as us.
If only we could have an all nickelback defense lol

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rymflaherty said:
Disclaimer- I'm responding before reading the article, which is something I not really a fan of, but doing so since I believe the answer is obvious...

The winner is the team who didn't waste a draft pick to obtain the services of a player who is at worst a needed body and at best a project.
Billu Turner can be awful in Baltimore and it doesn't matter, they didn't waste a third round pick on him.
Same thing for the CB the Dilphins brought in. If it works great, if not there really wasn't much of a risk.
There's not too much to draw from these type of desperate moves where you're selecting what you can from a limited player pool. So again the only real conclusion is the negative from the team that wasted valuable resources on them in the first place.
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very well said
 
RobertHorry said:
I think in Turner's case he just will not have proper and consistent technique and goes beyond coaching. As much as the crap Philbin gets around here, I know a few people who played for him and said he may not have been the best players coach but he knew his stuff and was a good teacher, especially when it came to the O-line.

Turner is just an inconsistent player and forgets proper technique more often than not.
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Colostomy Bag said:
I can dig that. I also have a lot of respect for OL coach Jon Benton who was here with Philbin as well.
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I'm to the point with this O-Line that no one should be safe next year except Tunsil.

James, Pouncey all part of lines who suck. Albert long in the tooth. I'd keep Steen and Tunsil and scrap the lot of em' because Miami has been on the bottom of the league in line play for years now, a steady decline since 2009.

Usually if a line struggles it is in one area but Miami's line has been terrible in every area. If Miami is going to be terrible might as well pay scrubs to be terrible.
 
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