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who would be willing to trade up for Amari Cooper to pair with Landry

Only if you dump wallace. He Looks like wallace to me. That's not what this team needs
 
That kid is a stud, if we can dump Wallace and Hartline contract, but agree, we need a Vincent Jackson type
 
I kinda of see it a little different. Wallace hasn't been elite thats for sure but he has caught quite a few td's for this team this season, given he hasn't caught more then one on any given sunday or thurs... But he has caught a few. And about Hartline i haven't figured out what's up with him and this offense. It seem's like he just doesn't fit in. I don't believe for a minute that he has forgotten how to catch the ball or that he is slower this year then any in the past, for some reason he reminds me of OJ McDuff, and by that i mean his hand catching ability i mean the just had back to back 1,000 yds recieving. So only in my opinion i believe something is just missing in this story.
 
hellsapoppin, do you trust hartline? I dont. Not in a must win, or must have situation. I dont like his contract, and dont think he is a difference maker. YAC?
 
BlueFin said:
Hartline is a backup........nothing more...when you need real impact he is not there.
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Exactly. Just watch him on the all-22 if you want to see a useless 2 WR in this offense.

Waste of money and roster space.

Keep him as a position coach, though. He seems like he's be good at coaching the position.

LD
 
LDaniel7 said:
Exactly. Just watch him on the all-22 if you want to see a useless 2 WR in this offense.
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This is pretty much how I feel about it with my eyeballs. On a whim, I decided to see what Football Outsiders had to say about it.

Here are how our key offensive skill players stack up from an analytical perspective, compared to other NFL players with enough plays to be considered gradable starters:

Ryan Tannehill: #11 in DYAR, #13 in DVOA (out of 40)
Lamar Miller: #4 in DYAR, #4 in DVOA (out of 32)
Charles Clay: #35 in DYAR, #31 in DVOA (out of 41)
Jarvis Landry: #25 in DYAR, #23 in DVOA (out of 72)
Mike Wallace: #31 in DYAR, #32 in DVOA (out of 72)

...

Brian Hartline: #48 in DYAR, #45 in DVOA (out of 72)

Of all of our gradable starters at the skill positions, two of them are playing below replacement level: Charles Clay and Brian Hartline. In this case, I don't think the numbers are misleading. Hartline and Clay have both really struggled to contribute in this offense. My guess is they are both gone next year.

Disclaimer this does not mean that Lamar Miller is an elite RB or that Charles Clay is a terrible tight end. What this means is that Lamar Miller is a good fit and very productive in our offense, while Charles Clay is a bad fit and not at all productive in our offense. In the case of Hartline, he's clearly a bad fit, but that's for reasons that seem obvious to me: Hartline is not a hands catcher in traffic and is terrible at getting yards upfield after the catch most of the time.

:idk:
 
terphin said:
with Wallace and Clay, that would be gonzo
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I'm not in favor of trading away picks. This last game showed us how important it is to have quality backups (and how not having them can bite you in the ass). We need LBs, we need DBs, we can't afford to give picks away.
 
terphin said:
with Wallace and Clay, that would be gonzo
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I really like Cooper but we can draft Kevin White or Jaelen Strong and not give up a bunch of pics to move up. I think we need a top CB before we go after a WR.
 
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