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Whose fault is it?

Who is mostly to blame for the current NFL labor impasse?

  • THE OWNERS:Internal division and greed makes their position totally unsympathetic.

    Votes: 55 50.9%
  • THE PLAYERS:They're rich now. As the faces of the sport, they must to do what's best for the fans.

    Votes: 53 49.1%

  • Total voters
    108

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Due to the timeliness of this issue, I felt it was appropriate for posting in the main forum.
 
Ok, care to elaborate??

Edit: Sorry, didn't see the poll!!

I'll take option three...both!! Ego, useless character trait.
 
Umm, Doc, I have no idea who's fault it is cause I don't know what we are blaming on them?? care to clarify a little??

Edit: Ok poll wasn't up yet. sorry for doubting your sanity!
 
The players have agreed to a hard salary cap AND no guaranteed contracts.

The owners have it better than any other owners in sports.

When the players demands are so ridiculously reasonable, there is no room to blame them at all.

It's been 100% the owners holding this up. Heck, they didn't even bother getting around to negotiating until it was almost too late, because they couldn't even settle their INTERNAL greed.

No way you can blame the players for this. They've been waiting on the owners.
 
Sorry for the confusion. I had no idea poll posts went up in segments.
 
Right now the players want 60.7%...Thats alot of money...They are not the ones who have to pay the bills(Electric,venders,maintenance etc).

No doub it is the players....This also means ticket increases for the fans.
 
musphinzfan said:
Right now the players want 60.7%...Thats alot of money...They are not the ones who have to pay the bills(Electric,venders,maintenance etc).

No doub it is the players....This also means ticket increases for the fans.

60% split among 1500 players. 40% among 32 owners.

The owners are getting far, far richer than even the most wealthy of players.

And yet in a league with a hard salary cap and no guaranteed contracts, people still want to blame the players.

:shakeno:
 
nopony said:
It's been 100% the owners holding this up. Heck, they didn't even bother getting around to negotiating until it was almost too late, because they couldn't even settle their INTERNAL greed.

The owners do have issues between themselves, the issue is big market teams versus small market teams and the revenue sharing, teams in smaller markets get less but have less overhead while big market teams get more but have more overhead. Basically if you want a bigger market, do the work and make it bigger don't blame the bigger market teams for getting more when they do more. Nonetheless, every time something like this happens be it baseball, basketball,hockey or football the biggest losers are always the fans. The owners and players still get paid, but our routine and product are always effected. Yet we keep coming back.:shakeno:
 
Small market owners have to realize the cap gives them their only chance of staying competitive, and thus, profitable. To keep the cap in place, they should be willing to bend over otherwise.
 
feelthepain said:
:tantrum: :ban: !!!!!

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nopony said:
60% split among 1500 players. 40% among 32 owners.

The owners are getting far, far richer than even the most wealthy of players.

And yet in a league with a hard salary cap and no guaranteed contracts, people still want to blame the players.

:shakeno:

I am not arguing here iwth you nopony as I completely understand where you are coming from.

But who has money invested in the team? The players or the owners? Who pays the bills? Who purchases the teams?

It is only fair that the owners receive the majority of the revenue seeing as they were the ones who invested in it to begin with all the players do is go out on the field and play a game.

Yes, the players, certain players are some of the major reason why they profits are so high for the owners. But as soon as Ray Lewis pays the MILLIONS of dollars it would take to purchase the Baltimore Ravens then he and the players, IMO, DON'T deserve equal share of the revenue regardless of how many they are.

This is a serious question I am not trying to argue with this one. When Ricky Williams or Jason Taylor show up in a Nike, Reebok whatever type of advertisement or commercial does Wayne Huizenga get split profit from that advertisement?

To me the blame falls on both sides. The owners are definitely greedy and can bend a little. BUt I am a firm believer that these guys are playing a game. They are not putting their lives on the line like Firemen, Police officers, they are not helping to better our communities by becoming teachers. They play a game it's that simple. Yet they make millions of dollars more then people that are helping or bettering this country yet they wanna complain about revenue sharing when they just cashed a $125,000 paycheck for playing a 3 hour game last Sunday? I guarantee a committed teacher puts more work into their job, a police officer firemen all put more time and effort into their job then any Football player.

This is just my humble opinion. But to sit here and say only 1 side is to blame is a little naive IMHO
 
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