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Why almost none of the 2nd round picks have signed

ThePeopleShow13 said:
It is not part of the current CBA. It’s just the way the NFL has moved in the past few years. Moreover, the Texans signed their 2nd round pick to a fully guaranteed contract so I expect more to demand it. Pretty much the reason so many are not signed yet.
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That’s not true regarding 1st round picks and CBA negotiations.

1st round picks have 4 year, fully guaranteed contracts, with a 5th year option that must be exercised by year 3 if the team wants to keep the player past their 4th season. All of this is in the CBA.
 
Golphindolphin said:
Grier gets universally shat upon for "giving out contracts" and "screwing up the cap" when in fact Brandon Shore is the lead negotiator on all contracts and is responsible for salary cap management. Since the amount of the contract for Jonah ( and all drafted players) is predetermined ( 4 yrs. $11,310,028 with preset annual salaries) I would venture that Grier actually has no input on this or any draft pick signing. The UDFA's I would imagine Grier and McDaniel have way more input due to the smaller amounts of any contracts and/or how desirable the individual UDFA's are, but at the end of the day Shore is negotiating actual terms and how an individual contract will fit under the cap. As for free agents, past experience certainly has shown McDaniel and/or Grier have had the ability to "pound the table", but it certainly appears , at least for 2025, that may not necessarily be the case going forward. Bio for Shore and link to rookie contract slotting below-

https://www.miamidolphins.com/team/front-office-roster/brandon-shore

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cba/rookie-scale
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Shore is fantastic and one of the best in the league. None of the contracts given out have been crazy and just about all have outs if needed which is why we’ve been able to tread water and not completely sink like the saints. It’s not his decision on which players to sign or extend/restructure he just gets it done as cheap and as team protective as possible. You just can’t restructure a player than have a falling out with the player the following year and try to move him like with Ramsey but again that’s on Grier/mcdaniel to decide that restructure not Shore.
 
Golphindolphin said:
Membou, Tet, Matthew Golden, Omarion Hampton, Donovan Jackson and Tyliek Williams all signed contracts that are not fully guaranteed. There are 11 unsigned 1st rounders , certainly all left battling for fully guaranteed contracts since the amounts are pre-slotted. So fifteen 1st rounders have inked fully guaranteed contracts thus far.
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Typically, when you see 1st rounders not signing it’s because of the language. Things like “we can take money back if you get suspended”.

All 1st round contracts are fully guaranteed.

“Under the current NFL collective bargaining agreement, first-round draft picks receive four-year contracts with the entire amount fully guaranteed. They also have a fifth-year option that, if exercised, gives them a considerable raise in the fifth year and more fully guaranteed money.”
 
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danmarino7051 said:
Typically, when you see 1st rounders not singing it’s because of the language. Things like “we can take money back if you get suspended”.

All 1st round contracts are fully guaranteed.

“Under the current NFL collective bargaining agreement, first-round draft picks receive four-year contracts with the entire amount fully guaranteed. They also have a fifth-year option that, if exercised, gives them a considerable raise in the fifth year and more fully guaranteed money.”
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Yeah, I deleted my post, I was using bad Twitter info. Oh well, they can't all be gems
 
ThePeopleShow13 said:
It is not part of the current CBA. It’s just the way the NFL has moved in the past few years. Moreover, the Texans signed their 2nd round pick to a fully guaranteed contract so I expect more to demand it. Pretty much the reason so many are not signed yet.
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Huh. You're correct. They all get four-year contracts, slotted by pick number, with a fifth-year club option.

But they're not mandated as fully guaranteed by the CBA, it's just what teams normally do. I stand corrected.
 
danmarino7051 said:
Typically, when you see 1st rounders not singing it’s because of the language. Things like “we can take money back if you get suspended”.

All 1st round contracts are fully guaranteed.

“Under the current NFL collective bargaining agreement, first-round draft picks receive four-year contracts with the entire amount fully guaranteed. They also have a fifth-year option that, if exercised, gives them a considerable raise in the fifth year and more fully guaranteed money.”
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Link to this? I couldn't find it.
 
The Goat said:
Link to this? I couldn't find it.
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“To expound on that, according to Article 7 of the NFL's collective bargaining agreement (CBA), NFL rookie contracts are "fixed" and "unalterable." Those taken in the first round of the NFL draft receive a four-year contract with a fifth-year option, i.e. meaning their base salary and contract is fully guaranteed.

Those taken in rounds two through seven of the draft are given a slightly different contract than first-round picks. As noted in the NFL's CBA, those drafted on Day 2 and Day 3 will receive a four-year rookie deal with their respective NFL team. As for undrafted free agents, they receive a three-year contract.”





www.jsonline.com

How much will NFL draft rookies be paid? Rookie wage scale, contract details by round

How much do NFL rookies make in the league? Here's a full breakdown of each slot pick value for the 2025 NFL Draft, from Round 1 through Round 7.
www.jsonline.com
 
danmarino7051 said:
That’s not true regarding 1st round picks and CBA negotiations.

1st round picks have 4 year, fully guaranteed contracts, with a 5th year option that must be exercised by year 3 if the team wants to keep the player past their 4th season. All of this is in the CBA.
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See the post below. The Texans set the precedent for this to happen with all future 2nd round picks as well.

The Goat said:
Huh. You're correct. They all get four-year contracts, slotted by pick number, with a fifth-year club option.

But they're not mandated as fully guaranteed by the CBA, it's just what teams normally do. I stand corrected.
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ThePeopleShow13 said:
See the post below. The Texans set the precedent for this to happen with all future 2nd round picks as well.
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I'm STILL not sure.

However, I just wanted to point out that it's awesome to be able to have this debate without finger-pointing and saying stuff like "YOU'RE ON RECORD NOW! I'M RIGHT, YOU'RE WRONG!"
 
If the reports are right the owners are bitching about their costs in a record revenue cycle, so WFT would Houston and Cleveland do something so stupid? It makes it hard for the owners to go play hardball when you have Bozo's like that?
 
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