Why already J.Long=Gallery what if J.Long = Pace

[Rhoadsy13]

I don't understand the NEGATIVE comparisons to J. Long = Gallery already, especially since he has not played 1 down in the NFL. Also most of those people that are saying that say we need to draft C.Long instead, well how do we know for sure that C.Long = Courtney Brown (browns #1 selection in 2000). Maybe J.Long = O.Pace a franchise all pro tackle or C.Long = J.Peppers, I would be willing to take my chances w/those 2 possibilities.

I just don't see why some people are already upset w/our pick and comparing them to busts before we even make the selection and before they even play 1 game in the NFL. I'm sure the Chargers fans were comparing Rivers = Leaf, that pick has seemed to workout for SD pretty well, w/ a 2 time pro bowler and 1 game away from the SB this year. The fact is we don't know how they are going to turn out so why ASSUME that they will automatically be bust??

To be honest I will be happy w/either Long, however I am leaning towards J.Long b/c the chance to have a franchise LT for 10 years is rare.

 

[montrealfinfan]

I don't understand the NEGATIVE comparisons to J. Long = Gallery already, especially since he has not played 1 down in the NFL. Also most of those people that are saying that say we need to draft C.Long instead, well how do we know for sure that C.Long = Courtney Brown (browns #1 selection in 2000). Maybe J.Long = O.Pace a franchise all pro tackle or C.Long = J.Peppers, I would be willing to take my chances w/those 2 possibilities.

I just don't see why some people are already upset w/our pick and comparing them to busts before we even make the selection and before they even play 1 game in the NFL. I'm sure the Chargers fans were comparing Rivers = Leaf, that pick has seemed to workout for SD pretty well, w/ a 2 time pro bowler and 1 game away from the SB this year. The fact is we don't know how they are going to turn out so why ASSUME that they will automatically be bust??

To be honest I will be happy w/either Long, however I am leaning towards J.Long b/c the chance to have a franchise LT for 10 years is rare.

We also dont have both T, at least we have jt and jp

 

[Sunny Fish]

I don't understand the NEGATIVE comparisons to J. Long = Gallery already, especially since he has not played 1 down in the NFL. Also most of those people that are saying that say we need to draft C.Long instead, well how do we know for sure that C.Long = Courtney Brown (browns #1 selection in 2000). Maybe J.Long = O.Pace a franchise all pro tackle or C.Long = J.Peppers, I would be willing to take my chances w/those 2 possibilities.

I just don't see why some people are already upset w/our pick and comparing them to busts before we even make the selection and before they even play 1 game in the NFL. I'm sure the Chargers fans were comparing Rivers = Leaf, that pick has seemed to workout for SD pretty well, w/ a 2 time pro bowler and 1 game away from the SB this year. The fact is we don't know how they are going to turn out so why ASSUME that they will automatically be bust??

To be honest I will be happy w/either Long, however I am leaning towards J.Long b/c the chance to have a franchise LT for 10 years is rare.

The people who complain and compare these prospective draft picks to NFL
busts are simply fans who want to draft someone else. Everyone on the Matt Ryan bandwagon says Jake Long = Robert Gallery. Don't sweat it bro. Only time will tell with any of these guys. Sometimes people tend to overgrade these prospects. The bottom line is Jake Long is a very good football player and I would put my money on him turning out to be beneficial to us before I
would bet on him being a bust.

 

[Roman529]

Even if Jake Long may not be a future Hall of Famer, he is still 100% better than any O-lineman we have now. I think he will be a regular Pro Bowl player and anchor our line for years to come.

 

[Bigjbizzle2]

The problem is everyone on this site now has an agenda and everyone wants to be Mel Kiper or Mike Mayock. anyone that knows what this team needs would know that we currently have porter and Taylor two top paid pass rusher, and unless we r going to let one of them go then the best pick for the team is Jake Long. If they are going to trade Taylor on draft day or something to that affect then Gholston or C. Long would be best for the team because of how deep this draft really is at ot. But like I said everyone on here thinks they are a major scout or something and thinks they know who will boom or bust. And people that know my posts know that I think Jake Long and Vernon Gholston are the picks but again who am I. As long as we don"t take Matt Ryan I will be happy and root that new dolphin on every Sunday until he flops(if we were that unfortunate). And it looks like my Ryan issue isn't one so i really don't care anymore

 

[G-Force]

I don't understand the NEGATIVE comparisons to J. Long = Gallery already, especially since he has not played 1 down in the NFL. Also most of those people that are saying that say we need to draft C.Long instead, well how do we know for sure that C.Long = Courtney Brown (browns #1 selection in 2000). Maybe J.Long = O.Pace a franchise all pro tackle or C.Long = J.Peppers, I would be willing to take my chances w/those 2 possibilities.

I just don't see why some people are already upset w/our pick and comparing them to busts before we even make the selection and before they even play 1 game in the NFL. I'm sure the Chargers fans were comparing Rivers = Leaf, that pick has seemed to workout for SD pretty well, w/ a 2 time pro bowler and 1 game away from the SB this year. The fact is we don't know how they are going to turn out so why ASSUME that they will automatically be bust??

To be honest I will be happy w/either Long, however I am leaning towards J.Long b/c the chance to have a franchise LT for 10 years is rare.

If you look closely at what you posted you will see. J. Long and Gallery are both Big 10 and Gallery is a Bust example. Then you compare C. Long to Cortney Brown. That is ACC and your bust example is Big 10. Then you put C. Long with Julius Peppers as a successfull comparison and their both ACC. Then you go and throw another success example in Rivers who is also ACC. You answered your own question without knowing it. While we're making ACC Big 10 comparisons lets also mention Desmond Howard, Curtis Enis, Tony Mandrich, Ki-jana Carter, Blair Thomas etc..etc..for the Big 10 and compare them to Anquain Bolden, Frank Gore, DeAngelo Hall, Shaun Merriman, Kris Jenkins, Mario Williams, Tory Holt etc..etc.. etc..from the ACC. That don't only work for the ACC either you can compare any of the major confrences to Big 10 and all of them combined probably won't produce as many busts.

 

[Bigjbizzle2]

If you look closely at what you posted you will see. J. Long and Gallery are both Big 10 and Gallery is a Bust example. Then you compare C. Long to Cortney Brown. That is ACC and your bust example is Big 10. Then you put C. Long with Julius Peppers as a successfull comparison and their both ACC. Then you go and throw another success example in Rivers who is also ACC. You answered your own question without knowing it. While we're making ACC Big 10 comparisons lets also mention Desmond Howard, Curtis Enis, Tony Mandrich, Ki-jana Carter, Blair Thomas etc..etc..for the Big 10 and compare them to Anquain Bolden, Frank Gore, DeAngelo Hall, Shaun Merriman, Kris Jenkins, Mario Williams, Tory Holt etc..etc.. etc..from the ACC. That don't only work for the ACC either you can compare any of the major confrences to Big 10 and all of them combined probably won't produce as many busts.

your hate for the big ten is ****ing hilarious.
Tom Brady no acc qb in his league
Larry Johnson
braylon edwards joey galloway terry glenn amani toomer plex burress, etc
O pace steve hutch joe thomas, levi brown, shane olivea, etc
d line has had some players like simeon rice and will smith not so much recently
lbs gold, vrabel, d.harris, greenway, poz, d. jones. hobson, etc
cb's woodson springs clements, winfield, law, whitner, etc

Dude hop off your acc throne cuz pretty much if you take florida state out of the equation and dont count the player from the u when they were in the big east the acc is very average cuz like u i can make a laundry list of acc flops

 

[Nublar7]

If you look closely at what you posted you will see. J. Long and Gallery are both Big 10 and Gallery is a Bust example. Then you compare C. Long to Cortney Brown. That is ACC and your bust example is Big 10. Then you put C. Long with Julius Peppers as a successfull comparison and their both ACC. Then you go and throw another success example in Rivers who is also ACC. You answered your own question without knowing it. While we're making ACC Big 10 comparisons lets also mention Desmond Howard, Curtis Enis, Tony Mandrich, Ki-jana Carter, Blair Thomas etc..etc..for the Big 10 and compare them to Anquain Bolden, Frank Gore, DeAngelo Hall, Shaun Merriman, Kris Jenkins, Mario Williams, Tory Holt etc..etc.. etc..from the ACC. That don't only work for the ACC either you can compare any of the major confrences to Big 10 and all of them combined probably won't produce as many busts.

Joe Thomas went to Wisconsin, a Big 10 school, and he turned out pretty good.

 

[MiamiDolfan85]

If you look closely at what you posted you will see. J. Long and Gallery are both Big 10 and Gallery is a Bust example. Then you compare C. Long to Cortney Brown. That is ACC and your bust example is Big 10. Then you put C. Long with Julius Peppers as a successfull comparison and their both ACC. Then you go and throw another success example in Rivers who is also ACC. You answered your own question without knowing it. While we're making ACC Big 10 comparisons lets also mention Desmond Howard, Curtis Enis, Tony Mandrich, Ki-jana Carter, Blair Thomas etc..etc..for the Big 10 and compare them to Anquain Bolden, Frank Gore, DeAngelo Hall, Shaun Merriman, Kris Jenkins, Mario Williams, Tory Holt etc..etc.. etc..from the ACC. That don't only work for the ACC either you can compare any of the major confrences to Big 10 and all of them combined probably won't produce as many busts.

i swear...your like....in love with Chris Long so much....its.....kinda creepy...however,your reasons are so shallow,your...story you typed(pointless) isnt even true.Busts come into the NFL in EVERY conference.Not just the conference CHRIS LONG is in is bust-free....:up:

 

[Rhoadsy13]

If you look closely at what you posted you will see. J. Long and Gallery are both Big 10 and Gallery is a Bust example. Then you compare C. Long to Cortney Brown. That is ACC and your bust example is Big 10. Then you put C. Long with Julius Peppers as a successfull comparison and their both ACC. Then you go and throw another success example in Rivers who is also ACC. You answered your own question without knowing it. While we're making ACC Big 10 comparisons lets also mention Desmond Howard, Curtis Enis, Tony Mandrich, Ki-jana Carter, Blair Thomas etc..etc..for the Big 10 and compare them to Anquain Bolden, Frank Gore, DeAngelo Hall, Shaun Merriman, Kris Jenkins, Mario Williams, Tory Holt etc..etc.. etc..from the ACC. That don't only work for the ACC either you can compare any of the major confrences to Big 10 and all of them combined probably won't produce as many busts.

I love your SELECTIVE choices!

I'm a UM fan but Antrelle Rolle hasn't done much as a top 10 pick where was he in your post? (Just 1 of many examples) It's funny how I compared J.Long to Orlando Pace- who is a BIG 10 guy that was pretty good.

 

[MiamiDolfan85]

i swear...your like....in love with Chris Long so much....its.....kinda creepy...however,your reasons are so shallow,your...story you typed(pointless) isnt even true.Busts come into the NFL in EVERY conference.Not just the conference CHRIS LONG is in is bust-free....:up:

and just to add to that,you cant compare Chris Long to Julius,because Julius is a WAY better athete and football player than Long.Sure,he has the NFL experience,but Long's(Chris) lack of STAND-OUT athetism cant be compared to someone as superior as Peppers.However,Long is a STAND-OUT football player,which does count for the most part.But your post G-Force was shallow mainly because you said Jake=Gallery,then you turned around and said Chris=Pepper is a great comparison,and you started talking about all the good players of todays NFL from the conference Chris player,without mentioning the busts...and trust,you do have some BUSTS.

All Im saying is,dont poke a hole in the souffle' just because you don't like that one,someone else might....:up:

 

[G-Force]

Joe Thomas went to Wisconsin, a Big 10 school, and he turned out pretty good.

He is one on a very short list of TOP 5 Big Ten picks that has lived up to their hype. Here is one list of all time biggest busts.http://football.about.com/od/nfldrafthistory/tp/topdraftbusts.htm If you notice 4 are Big ten and none are ACC. Here is another link with 2 of 8 top 5 pick busts coming from the Big 10. http://www.gazette.uwo.ca/article.cfm?section=Sports&articleID=935&month=03&day=14&year=2007 Joe Thomas is a living Big 10 legend now as he broke a long line of disappointments. BTW everyone says Jake is no Joe Thomas. I will accept jake and cheer for him to be a perrenial Pro-Bowler if we draft him I just won't accept anything less for the money he will demand because he is supposedly the best T in the draft while playing in a overated conference with the history it has had with #1 and #2 overall picks.

 

[G-Force]

your hate for the big ten is ****ing hilarious.
Tom Brady no acc qb in his league
Larry Johnson
braylon edwards joey galloway terry glenn amani toomer plex burress, etc
O pace steve hutch joe thomas, levi brown, shane olivea, etc
d line has had some players like simeon rice and will smith not so much recently
lbs gold, vrabel, d.harris, greenway, poz, d. jones. hobson, etc
cb's woodson springs clements, winfield, law, whitner, etc

Dude hop off your acc throne cuz pretty much if you take florida state out of the equation and dont count the player from the u when they were in the big east the acc is very average cuz like u i can make a laundry list of acc flops

So if I take FSU out I can still use GT, VT, UVA, UNC, N.C. State, and Clemson? Allright lets get these comparisons going. No, hang on a minute. Miami, FSU, and BC are in the ACC and I can use all of them and you know their is no reason even debateing or listing players because it's not even close. You sound like Wilbon after the latest Big 10 embarressment in the BCS when he was making excuses that teh Big 10 recruit for their confrences climate and it makes them big and slow and Western and Southern teams are smaller and too fast for them. Like I have said many times before, I live about 45 minutes from a small college that could wi the Big 10 Championship and if you don't beleive me ask Michigan and Jake Long if the ever heard of Appalachain State and if they think they could beat them in the Big House. And your wanting to compare confrences.:sidelol:

 

[G-Force]

and just to add to that,you cant compare Chris Long to Julius,because Julius is a WAY better athete and football player than Long.Sure,he has the NFL experience,but Long's(Chris) lack of STAND-OUT athetism cant be compared to someone as superior as Peppers.However,Long is a STAND-OUT football player,which does count for the most part.But your post G-Force was shallow mainly because you said Jake=Gallery,then you turned around and said Chris=Pepper is a great comparison,and you started talking about all the good players of todays NFL from the conference Chris player,without mentioning the busts...and trust,you do have some BUSTS.

All Im saying is,dont poke a hole in the souffle' just because you don't like that one,someone else might....:up:

How is that shallow? I didn't make the thread. He ask a quetion and I told himhow he already answered it. BTW, I like Jake just fine and if we draft him I will hope as much as anyone he is another Joe Thomas and not any of the Big 10 other top past picks in the top 5.

 

[fatkirstyalley]

I don't understand the NEGATIVE comparisons to J. Long = Gallery already, especially since he has not played 1 down in the NFL. Also most of those people that are saying that say we need to draft C.Long instead, well how do we know for sure that C.Long = Courtney Brown (browns #1 selection in 2000). Maybe J.Long = O.Pace a franchise all pro tackle or C.Long = J.Peppers, I would be willing to take my chances w/those 2 possibilities.

I just don't see why some people are already upset w/our pick and comparing them to busts before we even make the selection and before they even play 1 game in the NFL. I'm sure the Chargers fans were comparing Rivers = Leaf, that pick has seemed to workout for SD pretty well, w/ a 2 time pro bowler and 1 game away from the SB this year. The fact is we don't know how they are going to turn out so why ASSUME that they will automatically be bust??

To be honest I will be happy w/either Long, however I am leaning towards J.Long b/c the chance to have a franchise LT for 10 years is rare.

I believe the negativity comes from the fact that over the past 5-7 years our Front Office has gotten it wrong. And Im not talking just about the draft, I am talking about the draft, free agency and players we let go have good careers elsewhere. Anyone who isnt a scout who says they can compare a previous draftee to a current prospect shouldnt be taken seriously. If this were the case we would all be in scouting. Robert Gallery and Jake Long might be similiar in stature, but not technique and most definitely not in Work Ethic or Heart. We know what Gallery is we dont know what Long will be. The End