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Why Are The Other AFC East Teams Set At QB?

Moore is clearly better than Fitz and Sanchez- and Moore was playing with a half-functional Oline, a dysfunctional #1WR, and a questionable coach.

Though I put most of the blame on his game-closing performances on Columbo and Carey, giving up sacks once too many in crutial moments.

Regardless, in the AFC East it could be another breakout year for Moore as he learns from Philbin, plus it'll be interesting to see the Bills rise this year and the Jests continue to fizzle out.
 
Ok, your point is?

My apologies for making it too difficult to grasp.

There wouldn't have been negative media towards your team if Ryan hadn't proclaimed them to be Super Bowl bound every year. Doing so creates attention (good/bad) that doesn't fade.
 
Agreed, and not only that but the teams he played against were "under pressure to win," including the Jets in week 17.

And I don't want to hear(from jets fans) about the Jets not being able to get in the playoffs even if they won that game, because they did not know they were eliminated from the playoffs until after that game. Plus we kicked their a$$es without Bush and Long.

By a whole 2 points. C'mon, that wasn't an ass-kicking.
 
My apologies for making it too difficult to grasp.

There wouldn't have been negative media towards your team if Ryan hadn't proclaimed them to be Super Bowl bound every year. Doing so creates attention (good/bad) that doesn't fade.

That certainly puts more attention on the team but any team that goes from being in the title game 2 straight years to being 8-8 losing their last 3 in year 3 is going to get ngative attention.

By the way, what has Miami done to earn positive attention? Fans always whine about the media being out to get them. When teams win they get respect in the media, when they don't they get bashed and Miami has been losing in the season and in the offseason for a long time now.

Agreed, and not only that but the teams he played against were "under pressure to win," including the Jets in week 17.

And I don't want to hear(from jets fans) about the Jets not being able to get in the playoffs even if they won that game, because they did not know they were eliminated from the playoffs until after that game. Plus we kicked their a$$es without Bush and Long.

an a$$ kicking by 2 pts? seriously? The jets season died the previous 2 weeks, we had an outside shot if we won that game but the season died getting killed by Philly and losing that crushing game to the Giants.
 
No, Moore was not better than sanchez and Fitz. Moore came into a situation where he had no pressure to win, Moore has had multiple chances in this league to start and has only succeeded when he had no pressure to win(much like Fitz). Sanchez has been the QB of a team that made 2 title games in 3 years and had a "bad" season at 8-8 which is better than Fitz and Moore have ever had.

Matt Moore is a great solution as a backup QB and not the worst solution as a short term starter, he's just not a guy you can win w/ or should build around. Don't make the same mistake Buf did and overpay for a good backup to be your starter.
C'mon! Stats are confusing, as Matt Moore got poor support in Dallas and Carolina, always running for his life.

Using such information as argument to dismiss the good year Matt Moore got in 2011 is like using post-tsunami numbers to exemplify the economy of Japan.

Miami won't have a weaker O-line than last season, so it's safe to expect better performance from Moore.

Also the fact that Philbin will use a WCO variation, so Dolphins need a system QB, and Matt Moore could serve well. I would have opted for Flynn, but such scenario is gone.

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According to Albert Einstein, Buffalo is being insane, as they are doing the same things, expecting different results.
I mean they have added and will add more pieces but keeping Fitzpatrick and Modkins don't look as a sure thing.

Jets on the other hand are moving from run-first to run-always offense. Sparano likes to smash and punch with running attack adding some tricky play from time to time to avoid being predictable. So Sanchez looks like a cool QB for them.

It's weird two former Dolphins' HC are coordinators on divisional opponents.
 
i have no problem with the dolphins coming out and saying they want a franchise quarterback. i want a franchise quarterback. you want a franchise quarterback. to date, between the end of the 2011 season and today, there was an opportunity to acquire exactly ONE franchise quarterback (Peyton Manning). we were one of a select handful of teams that got to meet with him while he was a free agent (for 5 1/2 hours). he told the jets no thank you. he told the chiefs no thank you. he told the seahawks no thank you. he eventually decided to go to denver. unfortunate, but it was his decision to make. our search goes on for a franchise quarterback. when one comes along please let me know (i am sure ireland will be aware of it long before you are). the media and the clueless fans really need to just zip it.
 
he didn't tell the Jets no thank ou, the Jets were NEVER serious players but like any good organization they investigated the possibility. Unless Peyton came almost for free the Jets weren't pursuing him.
 
I don't think anyone breathed a deeper sigh of relief when Henne signed with Jax than The Taco. Henne knew what a lot of jest players also knew: no matter how much anyone outplays Sanchez, it don't matter. :idk:

I've been saying all along, long before the 2 uncredited sources who were obviously Tomlinson and Holmes confirmed that Sanchez has been enabled, could continue to crap the bed and knew he'd be rewarded with another start considering the guy who'd come in carried an AARP card. Absolutely no pressure on him to keep his job. I called it "enabling;" those guys called it coddling. Moore came in to a demoralized team with SFL'ers in the stands vocally rooting against him and it in a fire by baptism situation, and after he his sea legs under him, finished the same 6-3 that Ryan did, but beat teams with a better winning record than him, and certainly better than Sanchez's 5-4 where he failed when another backdoor post season entry was at stake at the time he was playing us. Moore made bad teams including ours better, winning 52% of his games started for teams those years winning 36.% of their cumulative games. Even his bad year, post concussion in 2010, he went 1-4 yet still managed to win 50% of that lame duck coach's teams wins while starting in 35% of their games. An upgraded 2011 team had Cam Newton doing even worse going 1-5 and 2-10, even with his own legs as a weapon before he clicked in. Had he been a late round draft pick, he'd never have seen that 10th start. So it's all relative. Sanchez was carried by his relatively good and lucky teams/ Moore actually uplifted his mediocre and bad ones!

Only Brady in the division played better than Moore, through the last 9 games, a guy who had Marshall dropping end zone passes, his defense losing to Tebow on predictable plays and turnstyles in Columbo and Carey and the pressure of playing for his career vs being stereotyped as a back up. Last season, between Moore and Taco, only one of them rose to the occasion given the tools they had to work with.
 
That certainly puts more attention on the team but any team that goes from being in the title game 2 straight years to being 8-8 losing their last 3 in year 3 is going to get ngative attention.

They went to 2 straight AFC title games?

By the way, what has Miami done to earn positive attention? Fans always whine about the media being out to get them. When teams win they get respect in the media, when they don't they get bashed and Miami has been losing in the season and in the offseason for a long time now.

Nothing. As you can see on this board, morale seems to be at an all-time low. You being on this site now is the best you're ever going to have it as a rival fan. If this site exists when the Dolphins are really good again, then it will get interesting.
 
Yeah Sanchez was relieved after they extended his contract that they didn't sign Chad henne to back him up.
 
Yeah Sanchez was relieved after they extended his contract that they didn't sign Chad henne to back him up.

Well, now instead of Henne taking over the starting job from Sanchez, it looks like Tebow will be taking it very soon.
 
Well, now instead of Henne taking over the starting job from Sanchez, it looks like Tebow will be taking it very soon.

there's a much better chance Miami wins the SB this year than tebow takes over for Sanchez barring injury. Tebow won't even be the #2 QB.
 
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