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Why Billy Turner Could Be Miami Dolphins’ Best Pick of 2014 NFL Draft

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Turner hails from North Dakota State, a relatively obscure program that had great success at the FCS level. If he would’ve been seen on networks like ESPN and CBS every Saturday, Turner would probably be dominating headlines in Miami like James and Landry are. Chances are, he wouldn’t have been attainable in the third round, though.
Turner consistently abused his inferior competition, displaying violence, nastiness, strength and athleticism — a blend of traits that suggest he’s capable of becoming a complete player at the next level. Of course, critics of small-school prospects will question the caliber of talent Turner faced. Pancaking defensive linemen from schools like Ferris State and Northern Iowa comes with an asterisk.
Any doubts about Turner’s ability to hold his own, let alone dominate against stronger, more athletic defenders were put to rest on August 31, 2013 and at January’s Senior Bowl.
Last August, North Dakota State opened its season on the road against Kansas State, an FBS school in an automatic qualifying conference. The Bison entered the matchup as heavy underdogs, but emerged with a victory and national affirmation. Turner played a pivotal role in the upset, completely shutting down Kansas State’s pass rush on the left side and burying opponents into the turf on running plays.
Turner simply manhandled an opposition that was supposedly bigger, stronger and more athletic. His coaches gave him an efficiency grade of 96 percent on the night, charting a ridiculous 10 knockdowns.
If doubt prevailed after that rousing performance and a senior season in which Turner didn’t allow a single sack at left tackle — porous competition or not, that’s remarkable — it was, once again, dispelled at the Senior Bowl.
Some rawness in Turner’s technique was brought to light, but from all accounts, he improved throughout the week. “Second day in a row that Billy Turner has impressed,” CBS Sports’ Rob Rang tweeted after a workout at the Senior Bowl. “A top-five player here this week.”
In addition to impressing at tackle, Turner dabbled at guard during Senior Bowl workouts, which was important for the Dolphins to see given their hole inside. Not only does Turner appear willing to move to guard, doing so is apparently his preference.
“I always wanted the chance to play guard, just because I’m a physical guy,” Turner told reporters at February’s combine. “I’m a physical run blocker, so I always wanted to get inside, get a little closer to that defender and just try to run some people over.”
That mindset likely factored into the Dolphins’ decision to trade up for him in the third round. Coaches love strong, athletic players who relish contact. That’s Turner in a nutshell. It jumps out on film; Turner explodes through contact. Many players reveal hesitancy when a collision is imminent. Not Turner.
Some prospects are better athletes than football players. Some are better football players than athletes. Turner, with a throwback demeanor, is a true football player who possesses prototypical athleticism for Miami’s zone-blocking scheme. And he accompanies that ability with a tireless work ethic.
“Billy works harder than anyone I ever met,” Louis Nix III, who trained with Turner before the draft, said during a filming of Turner’s pre-draft documentary. “He’s the first one here and the last one gone. Billy motivates me.”
Turner may start Week 1 at either right or left guard for the Dolphins. And when Branden Albert‘s contract is up or his play beings to decline, Turner has the foot speed to potentially kick over to left tackle in the future. Taking him in the third round arguably killed two birds with one stone — the club’s current need for a starting guard and its future need for a blindside protector.
If Turner maximizes his potential at both spots or just guard, he could easily be remembered as Miami’s best acquisition of the 2014 draft.

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Do you write for rantsports? Curious as nobody else ever posts links to that site
 
He could also be our worst pick but I guess we'll have to wait and see. I'm curious to see how he adjusts to not top tier defensive players in the NFL considering he never played against them in college. I watched the K State tape but don't believe that defense had any blue chip ends or lbs that he faced consistently.
 
I think Turner will start this year. If he turns into a solid starting lineman I'll call that a good 3rd rd pick. This is a draft that could generate 5 starters in the next 2 years.
 
He could also be our worst pick but I guess we'll have to wait and see. I'm curious to see how he adjusts to not top tier defensive players in the NFL considering he never played against them in college. I watched the K State tape but don't believe that defense had any blue chip ends or lbs that he faced consistently.
Talk about negative Nancy lol. Ryan Mueller from Kansas State plays DE for them and had 11.5 sacks last year. He had one against North Dakota State but it wasn't against Billy Turner.
 
Wasn't being a "negative Nancy"( what a lame term for grown men to use). I was being realistic and tempering my expectations. I'm not as down on the James pick as a lot of other fans. If he really is plug and play I'm fine with that. But if it will make everyone feel better Turner will be an all time great. As will James. And Tannehill is already an all time great.
 
Wasn't being a "negative Nancy"( what a lame term for grown men to use). I was being realistic and tempering my expectations. I'm not as down on the James pick as a lot of other fans. If he really is plug and play I'm fine with that. But if it will make everyone feel better Turner will be an all time great. As will James. And Tannehill is already an all time great.

How is it being realistic if you've never seen the guy play against better competition? How do you know what he can do before he's even done it? You're making assumptions and faulting on the negative rather than just waiting to see how it plays out. That's lame.
 
so how did k-state get to bowl games not having any good players on defense?

and, the senior bowl? nope, no one going to the nfl there.

you can hide being a downer all you like TUREO but your planned negativity says it all. if you cant get excited about a kid like billy turner than you cant say you really enjoy the game.

and what really gives you away as a hater is comments like , "ok, i will make you feel better, tanny is all world and turner and all time great". can you be any more of a condescending arse?

probably so. surprised i asked that question. and you are no realists sir as i am the realist club president and the centerfold for realist magazine. i am the RAINING KING AND ALMIGHTY god OF REALISTS!! people may say a lot of things about me but no one has ever called me a homer. any bonafide realist can see, at this point, that turner is a class A PROSPECT. but, if you dont listen to those who have coached him and played against him [nix of course not nfl talent, ooooh, wait, he was a draft pick this year!!] you wont be listening to me. or the others taking you to task on your comments.

you probably weep like a baby on opening day!! i dont think i have ever seen such a dark cloud in my life.
 
He played against some pretty good competitIon. That's just a stupid commentary. He has good lateral movement and technique that's what I see. Small school guys usually drop because of that
 
I think Turner will start this year. If he turns into a solid starting lineman I'll call that a good 3rd rd pick. This is a draft that could generate 5 starters in the next 2 years.

It could also generate 0 starters and be considered a monumental failure. Again, not to be a Debbie Downer, but we should all temper our expectations a little bit. We have a GM in charge with no track record and zero experience. He is clearly learning on the job, as he proved by picking James at 19 and not trading down a couple spots and acquiring some more quality picks. So we should probably hold off and see how his moves pan out before we get all jazzed up about some "sleeper" picks from Montana and North Dakota State.
 
Me being a small school draft "expert", knew about Billy since january and hoped Miami draft in and likes of him because i got tired of knowing a player thinking he is going to be great and he ends up on another team, for example T.y hilton and Jimmy Graham. I felt this draft was done by me for me. Here is one of my sources, this guys nailed it, perfectly. I just like under the raider guys.
http://nfldraftdiamonds.com/damond-talbots-small-school-rankings-updated/
 
He could also be our worst pick but I guess we'll have to wait and see. I'm curious to see how he adjusts to not top tier defensive players in the NFL considering he never played against them in college. I watched the K State tape but don't believe that defense had any blue chip ends or lbs that he faced consistently.

Yet, Khalil Mack (5th pick) gets a pass for playing and dominatiing in probably the worst conference in DI football?
 
Yet, Khalil Mack (5th pick) gets a pass for playing and dominatiing in probably the worst conference in DI football?

Watch the OSU game. You think Mack needs as much work as Turner?

I think Turner has a lot of promise, but c'mon.


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Watch the OSU game. You think Mack needs as much work as Turner?

I think Turner has a lot of promise, but c'mon.


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Agree on Turner's promise but, having that "nasty streak" worked well vs who he played againt at N Dakota State. Will that work vs 300 pound NFL DLs', many with that same "nasty streak?" We shall see.
 
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