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Why did we stand pat at TE?

I read something saying that Dabol hates using double tight end sets and that he almost always uses one or no tight ends.

I hope this is true. I'm kind of sick of this plodding along style of football and it doesn't suit Henne's game where he needs to be making throws to get into a rhythm. The plodding along style is much more suited for a guy like CP.

Give me 4 wrs and Bush as the lone tailback. Talk about a match up nightmare trying to have a LB cover Bush in open space.
 
Fasano is a good blocker and reliable pair of hands, he's not an Antonio Gates but he wont hurt his team

I think they are really high on Clay as the playmaking seem threat mismatch TE and are going to work him in more than we think

Also Boss is the same type of TE as Fasano with not as good hands (a lot of my friends are Giants fans and say he had key big drops in games and dissapears) Also has an injury history

Also Zach Miller got a 5 year 34million dollar contract......

Couldn't say it any better myself. I feel people are failing to understand the potential combo we have in Fasano and Clay. Fasano is the classic #2 TE and Clay reminds me ... do I dare say ... Shannon Sharpe when it comes to size and speed. We know what we have in Fasano but Clay obviously as a rookie is only potential. But if Clay turns out to be the mismatch we hope he will be then we are perfect at the TE position, and alot cheaper than Miller's big contract.

PS: Give it up people on the subject of Boss ... please! Fasano is better than this guy.
 
From Finsiders:

http://thefinsiders.com/blog/2011/training-camp-breakdown-tight-ends

Besides the quarterback position, the one spot on the offensive side of the football that has plenty to digest is tight end. I say that because through the first week of training camp, the tight ends have been shifting, motioning and running ragged across multiple formations for offensive coordinator Brian Daboll.
This new offense has terrific skill players and should be able to put pressure on opposing defenses. That’s Daboll’s philosophy and he should have the weapons to be successful. It was my opinion that last year tight end Anthony Fasano didn’t get enough credit for what he brought to the table. A solid blocker at the point of attack and a guy with sure hands down the middle of the field. Fasano’s 39 receptions were good enough for fourth on the team in total receptions and four touchdowns were second only to Davone Bess with five. Yards per catch was 13 plus and the future looks bright in this offense, especially if what were seeing thus far in camp translates to the regular season.
The rest of the pack looks young and hungry to make an impact in camp this year. Rookie Charles Clay has displayed the skill set so far to create a possible mismatch either coming out of the backfield from the fullback position, or motioning out and creating space in the passing game. Clay looks the part and plays physical and fast! Mickey Shuler was the only other tight end on the roster last year to catch a pass (two receptions for 44 yards) from the tight end position. He and Jeron Mastrud must find a way to separate from the pack and make a play or two in the preseason games. That also holds true for Dedrick Epps and rookie Brett Brackett. Epps must make the most of his pass catching opportunities because his speed and athletic ability will give him chances to excel. Brackett has been very impressive showing quickness in and out of routes and has been sure-handed early in camp.
The tight end position looks healthy for the Miami Dolphins in 2011. Daboll’s offense should always have a spot for this position to thrive, but with the addition of Reggie Bush and the flexibility of Clay, the number of receptions should be spread out this season. Remember, last season in this offensive system, the running back (Peyton Hillis caught 61 passes for 477 yards). Dolphin fans should expect some of those receptions to land in the hands of Bush, Clay and running back Daniel Thomas.
For more on Dolphins rookie tight end Charles Clay, check out his in-studio interview with The Finsiders here.
 
Where is Joey Haynos now??

I think Clay will create mismatches and was a good pick. Kevin Boss didn't make sense here b/c he has the same skill-set as Fasano.
 
Seems that they threw in the towel this offseason when the big fish didn't fry.

And I'm fine with that. Anything that gets these pieces of ****s out of here ASAP I'm fine with.
 
Fasano is a good blocker and reliable pair of hands, he's not an Antonio Gates but he wont hurt his team
I think they are really high on Clay as the playmaking seem threat mismatch TE and are going to work him in more than we think

Also Boss is the same type of TE as Fasano with not as good hands (a lot of my friends are Giants fans and say he had key big drops in games and dissapears) Also has an injury history

Also Zach Miller got a 5 year 34million dollar contract......

I think standing in the field in the middle of a game shaking your head and screaming at your QB wouldn't exactly translate to helping your team very much either as I seem to recall Fasano doing a couple of time's last year. Fasano's an OK TE as other's have stated though he more of a #2 TE with ok blocking skill but losing out on Boss or no attempt being made for him is really no biggie to me but letting Miller (although hindsight would tell us way out of our price range) and making no play on Heap are some interesting moves by management but it is what it is. Fins for some reason don't put alot of stock in the TE position but IMO, with a struggling QB who your retaining for another season a very good receiving TE could be a godsend to a QB like Henne, a real head scratcher.
 
I know they are not guaranteed a roster spot and may not offer the same as a veteran, but I am very excited about the prospects of Mickey Shuler and Brett Brackett. As a Penn State fan, I have seen these players in person play and I think they both have a chance to develop into quality pro tight ends. Especially Brackett.

Dude, I'm not sayin that these guys CANT pan out, but yr talking about very late rd picks and udfas... Do you REALLY expect them to have anything more than a marginal impact this year? Miller would have been a hige upgrade from day 1. Imo we really dropped the ball on that 1.
 
First with Clay and now Brackett, seems like there going more with the H-Back multidimensional type

Bracket 6'6 248lbs with a 4.61 40time
 
Dude, I'm not sayin that these guys CANT pan out, but yr talking about very late rd picks and udfas... Do you REALLY expect them to have anything more than a marginal impact this year? Miller would have been a hige upgrade from day 1. Imo we really dropped the ball on that 1.

We have to pay Solia and Langford big money with I'm sure Wake wanting to re-work his deal for a big pay day, i would rather lock all 3 of them up for sure than devote 5 years and $34 million to a TE when we already have a solid (yes not exciting) TE in Fasano and just drafted Clay, lets be real Zach Miller is not a Gates or V.Davis, those are the only types of TE's worth big money like that IMO
 
with our WR core, I doubt we'd see any two TE sets this coming year, if we do as nublar pointing out, it'll be Clay as the number 2.
 
I think standing in the field in the middle of a game shaking your head and screaming at your QB wouldn't exactly translate to helping your team very much either as I seem to recall Fasano doing a couple of time's last year. Fasano's an OK TE as other's have stated though he more of a #2 TE with ok blocking skill but losing out on Boss or no attempt being made for him is really no biggie to me but letting Miller (although hindsight would tell us way out of our price range) and making no play on Heap are some interesting moves by management but it is what it is. Fins for some reason don't put alot of stock in the TE position but IMO, with a struggling QB who your retaining for another season a very good receiving TE could be a godsend to a QB like Henne, a real head scratcher.


Todd Heap 2010: 40 Receptions 599 yards, 5 TD's (31 years old)

Anthony Fasano 2010: 39 Receptions 528 yards 4TD's (27 years old)

People need to stop just looking at big names, Heap was released for a reason, nobody was really fighting to get him, it was between the Cardinals and Jets

Fasano is younger than Heap with almost the same production with a "awful" QB in Henne as most people would say around here, but lets just singn him because he is a name that people recognize

....and if the Phins did sign him, half the board would be complaining that they are signing old washed up players
 
Why?

Because there ain't a damn thing wrong with Anthony Fasano. He's reliable, he blocks, and despite what you sometimes read here - he's a good red zone threat.

Step out of the herd sometime, and look at the guy for yourself.


Honestly, people here act like he rapes nuns.
 
I kinda wish we had a tight end that I didn't think was going to fumble every time he got tackled.
 
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