Why did we think Van Noy sucked last year?

[ChitownPhins28]

Did he?

Was there scheme-related stuff that neutralized his strengths? Of Anyone, shouldn't Flo have known how to use his strengths and mitigate his weaknesses?
Is Van Noy even 'all that' with NE this year?

Im for keeping criticism fair for, if anything, keeping a better accounting of who is actually failing vs 'lumped in with truly discernable failure'.
Announcers are piling on Dolphins' Everything but just cuz they say it doesnt mean it's true.
Do we want a veteran taking snaps from Jaelen Philips who seems to be improving? So if Van Noy wasnt getting pass rush snaps then did we want him dropping into coverage? Didn't we feel that he couldn't even cover a telephone pole last year?

If an announcer is going to throw out the name 'Van Noy' and say his absence hurts Miami, shouldn't be accurate intstead of just regurgitating a meme?
Or is that announcer right?

 

[artdnj]

I think he expected Van Ginkle to excel in his expanded roll and maybe others to play big, strike 3 on Flo...he was wrong

 

[phinzfan21]

He got going good from mid-season on. Think he benefitted from all the attention Ogbah started to get and that we blitzed a ton. Certain areas he was a bit of a liability, but he didn't suck at all. Agree that I think Flo expected AVG to step up.

 

[Delvin]

He's got a PFF grade of 52 with the Patriots this year. So he sucks this year too. One of the few good calls to get rid of him, although still a terrible signing to begin with.

 

[BennySwella]

I thought he was good for us. He always made plays. Sacks and ints. But he was oft injured.

 

[lbmclean_nocal]

Well we let him and McKinney go and our defense sucks. So I don’t know what is going on

 

[ChitownPhins28]

He's got a PFF grade of 52 with the Patriots this year. So he sucks this year too. One of the few good calls to get rid of him, although still a terrible signing to begin with.

It's Shameful that an NFL color man anf former player can so ignorantly recycle a thoughtless meme.

 

[AdamD13]

Leadership and communication don’t necessarily fill the personal stat sheet.

 

[Delvin]

Well we let him and McKinney go and our defense sucks. So I don’t know what is going on

McKinney was the one that was dumb. He was the thumper we needed in the running game.

 

[Dolph N.Fan]

He was just below average compared to his contract. But he did a lot of things that freed up AVG to do his thing last year.

 

[Schleprock]

I thought he was good for us. He always made plays. Sacks and ints. But he was oft injured.

He did?

Either he was injured or most of his sacks came in 1 or 2 games if I recall.

 

[nate5413]

Well we let him and McKinney go and our defense sucks. So I don’t know what is going on

we've shipped alot of guys out this year. not great pieces but guys that could help this team.

 

[finmann]

He was grossly overpaid...that's it

 

[foozool13]

He didn’t suck, he did what he had done his entire career. He had pretty much the same exact numbers as his career averages, we just paid him like he would do more. It’s 100% on our front office.

 

[Waddle]

He was serviceable, and if nothing else a veteran presence.

I was going to make a thread about this, but in his presser a few days ago, when asked about why the defense has changed and become less effective, Boyer (in effect) said that opposing teams eventually catch on to what you’re doing and you have to change it up. Which, IMO, means that they schemed their way to a “good” defense last year and that is no longer effective. Meaning that it wasn’t simply the loss of Van Noy or McCain that had us in our current situation.

Take that for what it’s worth.