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Why Dolphins can stay on schedule even if QB play doesn't leap in 2021

Dolph N.Fan said:
Basically a lot of pressure will be on the defense to not have a significant regression if Tua's growth isn't significant enough this season if going by the weak examples used in the link.
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I am one of the biggest Tua supporters.

A year removed from the hip issue
A full off season with his team
Full camp with team
Waddle and Fuller
An offensive game plan catered to him not Fitz.

If Tua can't put it together this year I would be disappointed and there would be no excuses.

The defense will almost certainly digress. If for no other reason then not scoring TDS on defense. If Tua doesn't progress and our defense doesn't score we most likely don't have a winning season.

However, again, Tua cheerleader here lol!

I honestly expect Tuas name to be in consideration for MVP. I know, I know. I just truly have a feeling he surprises everyone this season except for Mahomes who kinda predicted it
 
eMCee85 said:
Um... ok. Kind of a pointless article
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Reminding certain Phins fans that Tua not becoming a superstar doesn't automatically doom the Phins to failure seems pretty pointed to me. Constantly hearing the same thing about Tua needing to break out in his second year gets tiresome.
 
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Mach2 said:
Aren't they all at this time of year?

I'm sure you mean no disrespect to the OP, but it seems a pointless comment as well.
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It's all good. He probably just didn't find any value, I didn't find much as well. lol I'm just trying to get us to the regular season during the dog days of the summer
 
Padfoot said:
Reminding certain Phins fans that Tua not becoming a superstar doesn't automatically doom the Phins to failure seems pretty pointed to me. Hearing the same thing about Tua needing to break out in his second year gets tiresome.
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It's like people are banking on Tua throwing 385+ yards and 3+ tds in every game this year and if he doesn't Miami can't win like they aren't talented in other areas of a team game lol Miami needs Tua for games that get up there in points and Miami can't find pts via special teams and defense. I don't expect Miami's defense to fall off that much to be in that many said games.
 
Dolph N.Fan said:
It's all good. He probably just didn't find any value, I didn't find much as well. lol I'm just trying to get us to the regular season during the dog days of the summer
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Yes, unless there is some "breaking news", there isn't much for writers to use in a way that hasn't already been beaten like a rented mule.

The good news is TC is just around the corner. The bad news is we will still have to seperate legitimate information from knee jerk hot takes.

Talking to you Omar.......
 
Dolph N.Fan said:
It's like people are banking on Tua throwing 385+ yards and 3+ tds in every game this year and if he doesn't Miami can't win like they aren't talented in other areas of a team game lol Miami needs Tua for games that get up there in points and Miami can't find pts via special teams and defense. I don't expect Miami's defense to fall off that much to be in that many said games.
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I may be in the minority here, but I think there's a good chance our defense actually goes to the "next level".

Yes, I understand "regression to the mean" as far as turnovers, but I love the scheme and the flexibility that can confound opposing QBs. Assignment soundness is the cornerstone, and our coaches on that side of the ball are among the league's best at evaluating players, and putting them in a position to succeed.

If in fact we lose X, it would be tougher, but not impossible to overcome.

Aside from that situation, we now have arguably better talent at every level than last year.
 
Mach2 said:
I may be in the minority here, but I think there's a good chance our defense actually goes to the "next level".

Yes, I understand "regression to the mean" as far as turnovers, but I love the scheme and the flexibility that can confound opposing QBs. Assignment soundness is the cornerstone, and our coaches on that side of the ball are among the league's best at evaluating players, and putting them in a position to succeed.

If in fact we lose X, it would be tougher, but not impossible to overcome.

Aside from that situation, we now have arguably better talent at every level than last year.
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And that's the thing, a lot of fans (especially other fan bases) are under the assumption that Miami had a ton of defensive scores. In reality Miami only had 2 fumble return TDs and zero INT return TDs. People forget the Special Teams forced a lot of turnovers for Miami too and had its share of return TDs. Does that mean the special teams is going to "regress to the mean"?
 
Mach2 said:
I may be in the minority here, but I think there's a good chance our defense actually goes to the "next level".

Yes, I understand "regression to the mean" as far as turnovers, but I love the scheme and the flexibility that can confound opposing QBs. Assignment soundness is the cornerstone, and our coaches on that side of the ball are among the league's best at evaluating players, and putting them in a position to succeed.

If in fact we lose X, it would be tougher, but not impossible to overcome.

Aside from that situation, we now have arguably better talent at every level than last year.
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I'll agree. Some seem to focus on TOs and defensive TDs . . . justifiably. TOs will likely be affected if X is gone, but I'm still inclined he stays. Of course I, and many FH members, anticipate a better pass rush. If it only increases pressures, that's a good precursor to TOs. TDs? I won't be surprised with a reduction there.

OTOH, as you state, the talent, overall, is better the continuing move to flexible players will help. Maybe not the 1st 3-4 games, but I expect more assignment discipline and fewer mental errors. Overall, a little regression won't hurt much, but a little improvement will help a lot.
 
Dolph N.Fan said:
And that's the thing, a lot of fans (especially other fan bases) are under the assumption that Miami had a ton of defensive scores. In reality Miami only had 2 fumble return TDs and zero INT return TDs. People forget the Special Teams forced a lot of turnovers for Miami too and had its share of return TDs. Does that mean the special teams is going to "regress to the mean"?
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That's the thing. Do you expect that same production by our defense? Even with X.

THE defense played great, and at time at unsustainable levels.

It's only natural to have some regression from that level of play.

Look at Ogbah, his last 6 games or so are why he has not gotten an extension yet.

His first 9 games are a big reason we were in the playoff hunt.

It's not a knock on our defense to say they may regress.

Look at Sanders. He was amazing. If he regressed a little on the long FGS does that mean he's not good anymore? The guy played fantastic.

Howard most likely won't get 10 ints. That will regress some.

A few of guys on defense had career years. They are career years for a reason.

Our offense will need to pick it up this year. O agree with a previous post, it's absurd to expect 385 3 tds from Tua every week. Our defense won't regress that much.

But we can't expect Denver and Raider type performances and expect to always be in the game in the 4tg quarter.

Who knows, if Flo and our defense truly are special, then I will be wrong. I hope I am
 
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