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Why have people stop comparing Tua to Steve Young?

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I am not trying to incite a Tua hate discussion so if you believe I am going to have an anti-Tua thread then you will be mistaken. I haven't seen these comparisons for quite some time, and that
could be for a lot of reasons. One of those reasons is that Tua seems to do a very good job at what he does provided he has the right players to execute our schemes. But to get back on topic,
i never quite understood the comparison with Steve Young. Not from our forums here, but whenever the news media brought Tua up for any reason.
Other than Tua throwing left handed I don't really see too many similarities. San Francisco was already established prior Steve Young becoming a starter.
Considering the time he spent in the bench, Steve Young played about 9 full seasons in Total. Steve Young was also one of the best mobile running backs in his time, and Tua doesn't even
come close to leading the league in that category at all. He has some capacity to be mobile, but I appreciate his other strengths over his ability to escape the pocket.
 
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juniorseau55 said:
I am not trying to incite a Tua hate discussion so if you believe I am going to have an anti-Tua thread then you will be mistaken. I haven't seen these comparisons for quite some time, and that
could be for a lot of reasons. One of those reasons is that Tua seems to do a very good job at what he does provided he has the right players to execute our schemes. But to get back on topic,
i never quite understood the comparison with Steve Young. Not from our forums here, but whenever the news media brought Tua up for any reason.
Other than Tua throwing left handed I don't really see there is a common comparison. San Francisco was already established prior Steve Young becoming a starter.
Considering the time he spent in the bench, Steve Young played about 9 full seasons in Total. Steve Young was also one of the best mobile running backs in his time, and Tua doesn't even
come close to leading the league in that category at all. He has some capacity to be mobile, but I appreciate his other strengths over his ability to escape the pocket.
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I don't like that type of comp in general.

First of all, situations are not all equal to begin with. Guys like Young and A. Rodgers both sat for years. Would the same posters who make the Young comp be fine with Tua doing that?

To be more specific, I agree that Young was a far better runner. He also had the benifit of not only an established team, but more specifically a proven and consistent offensive system.
 
Mach2 said:
I don't like that type of comp in general.

First of all, situations are not all equal to begin with. Guys like Young and A. Rodgers both sat for years. Would the same posters who make the Young comp be fine with Tua doing that?

To be more specific, I agree that Young was a far better runner. He also had the benifit of not only an established team, but more specifically a proven and consistent offensive system.
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This is quite true. Good post.
 
I never understood that comparison either. Maybe the lefthanded part. I think Young is more dynamic as a runner, but Tua might be more accurate. They both had that "it" factor in college.

I think the left-handed Drew Brees may be the best comparison. Tua is a better athlete than Brees, but otherwise about the same height, same touch on passes. Obviously, Brees is a Hall of Famer and Tua is still establishing himself in year two.
 
NBP81 said:
To be fair, one of the first guy to make the comparison was Steve Young himself.
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Interesting. I heard Steve Young talking on KNBR here in the Bay Area recently. He was recalling a long touchdown run he had for a touchdown. Got back to the sidelines and Bill Walsh was angry with him, asking why he didn't throw the ball to Jerry Rice. Young said that Rice wasn't open and Walsh said something like wait a split second and he would have been. I guess Walsh didn't want Young to run as much as he did. But that was such a dynamic aspect of his game.

That might be the main difference between him and Tua. There are a lot of opportunities for Tua to run, but he's looking to make a play in the passing game. Ironically, if Tua got more rushing yards, I think those that say he isn't athletic would come up with a different narrative.
 
I believe its because Tua is actually making a name for himself. Tua wil be Tua, He doesnt care what people think of him, but keepin his head up and work his a** off like Tua always does. And get this... Hes only just getting started folks!! So lets get excited for the last stretch and hopefully for future!!!
 
SF Dolphin Fan said:
Interesting. I heard Steve Young talking on KNBR here in the Bay Area recently. He was recalling a long touchdown run he had for a touchdown. Got back to the sidelines and Bill Walsh was angry with him, asking why he didn't throw the ball to Jerry Rice. Young said that Rice wasn't open and Walsh said something like wait a split second and he would have been. I guess Walsh didn't want Young to run as much as he did. But that was such a dynamic aspect of his game.

That might be the main difference between him and Tua. There are a lot of opportunities for Tua to run, but he's looking to make a play in the passing game. Ironically, if Tua got more rushing yards, I think those that say he isn't athletic would come up with a different narrative.
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It Young a lot longer to really shine in Bill Walsh's system than people remember. He had good, not great results in some of his early playing time, while guys like Steve Bono were having the same or better results subbing for Montana in that system. His play could be dynamic but was also, at least for the 49ers standards, a bit erratic. Walsh actually officially opened up the QB competition in Young's second year there I believe, but he just failed to solidify himself. It wasn't a sham - Walsh always saw Montana as a reliable who got the type done but like all coaches wanted a guy who had first round QB skills.
 
juniorseau55 said:
I am not trying to incite a Tua hate discussion so if you believe I am going to have an anti-Tua thread then you will be mistaken. I haven't seen these comparisons for quite some time, and that
could be for a lot of reasons. One of those reasons is that Tua seems to do a very good job at what he does provided he has the right players to execute our schemes. But to get back on topic,
i never quite understood the comparison with Steve Young. Not from our forums here, but whenever the news media brought Tua up for any reason.
Other than Tua throwing left handed I don't really see too many similarities. San Francisco was already established prior Steve Young becoming a starter.
Considering the time he spent in the bench, Steve Young played about 9 full seasons in Total. Steve Young was also one of the best mobile running backs in his time, and Tua doesn't even
come close to leading the league in that category at all. He has some capacity to be mobile, but I appreciate his other strengths over his ability to escape the pocket.
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They will start that comparison if we trade tua to another team like Steve Young was traded early in his career.
 
Phinatic8u said:
Steve Young would've been a massive bust without Bill Walsh.
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God...just no. Bill Walsh stopped coaching San Fran in 1988. Young only played two years in San Fran as a backup when Walsh left. He wasn't the 49ers starter under three years after that. Young was a pro bowler four times under George Seifert and then twice under Steve Mariucci.
 
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