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Why Hickey didn't take any of the trade down offers.

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I just got off the phone with someone who knows a thing or two about the Chiefs and I was told that the Chiefs also had J. James rated highly, and would have probably taken him is he was there when they were going to pick. Remember they needed help in their O-line as well and also, from what I've been told, they had no other o-lineman with a 1st rnd. grade after J. James.
My friend told me that he's pretty sure the Phins knew this, so they were reluctant to move back and loose their highest rated RT.
 
You answered your own question. Miami wanted to draft James and were afraid he'd be gone by the time they selected.
 
Makes sense. If your guy is there and you have the plan set do you want to risk losing him over a mid/late rounder? You can always pick up more picks later if that is your goal.
 
hickey isn't an idiot. nobody turns down free draft picks. obviously he felt james being picked before wherever they traded down to was a very real possibility.
 
Kansas City lost 3 O-lineman and no one in the media even mentioned it. They just kept bashing the Dolphins for needing to rebuild our O-line.
 
so kc wasnt gonna play the oklahoma kid from a couple years ago at right tackle is what you are telling me even though i'm pretty sure he played a solid right tackle last year after fisher went down

yeah i'm not so sure about this one
 
hooshoops said:
so kc wasnt gonna play the oklahoma kid from a couple years ago at right tackle is what you are telling me even though i'm pretty sure he played a solid right tackle last year after fisher went down

yeah i'm not so sure about this one
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They lost their two starting guards hoops.
 
circumstances said:
hickey isn't an idiot. nobody turns down free draft picks. obviously he felt james being picked before wherever they traded down to was a very real possibility.
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Welll , According to some who know better, someone slipped Hickey and Philbin a sleeping pill just before the 19th pick -> proabably the Jets
 
datruth55 said:
They lost their two starting guards hoops.
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so draft replacements and keep the oklahoma kid who's more a left tackle fit than fisher frankly anyways at tackle...what i would have done...of course i would never have given fish the starting left tackle job this year to begin with...i dont think thats gonna work
 
everyone is quick to say trade down because nobody would have taken him yet they have no idea what other teams draft boards looked like. Who saw san fran taking Ward? who had Philly taking a the LB smith? when it comes to the end of the first round teams take who they looked most into and liked. Nobody knows if other teams liked or disliked James.
 
datruth55 said:
Kansas City lost 3 O-lineman and no one in the media even mentioned it. They just kept bashing the Dolphins for needing to rebuild our O-line.
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I just wish they would rebuild it and it stay intact. We rebuild that line every three years and we simply can't keep sacrificing draft picks on linemen when we need playmakers.
 
PHINSfan said:
I just got off the phone with someone who knows a thing or two about the Chiefs and I was told that the Chiefs also had J. James rated highly, and would have probably taken him is he was there when they were going to pick. Remember they needed help in their O-line as well and also, from what I've been told, they had no other o-lineman with a 1st rnd. grade after J. James.
My friend told me that he's pretty sure the Phins knew this, so they were reluctant to move back and loose their highest rated RT.
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Always good to hear from other team's fans but, this doesn't make much sense. KC has Fisher at LT, and Stephenson, a 3rd round pick in 2102 who played well in the second half last year. If it was an OG, I may agree.

They took Ford as a pass rusher, and their front was horrible in bringing pressure on the QB last year. Can't see them going after James in the first.
 
Keonxl said:
I just wish they would rebuild it and it stay intact. We rebuild that line every three years and we simply can't keep sacrificing draft picks on linemen when we need playmakers.
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The problem is summed up on two words: Poor drafting.

I'll say it again: Poor drafting, poor drafting, poor drafting, poor drafting.

Good GMs build the OL and then continually replenish it by drafting ahead. By that I mean picking up good ceiling OL in rounds 3 and later, and developing them under your top 5 guys. You draft ahead like this and the game doesn't get ahead of you. The problem comes in when your GM is so inept that he cannot draft NOW nor draft ahead. Garbage at some starting places. Mediocrity elsewhere. And garbage at your developmental OL places, etc. If you can't draft decently you can't keep an OL playing well.

Hickey is trying to fix this. But how do you fix a team that needs upgrades at OL, TE, RB, CB, S, WR, LB -- heck, everywhere -- in one season?

You draft poorly for five plus years and this is what you get: Mediocrity, crap, and having to overpay FAs in order to get any semblance of NFL quality.

You simply can't fix years and years of horrid drafting in one season. AND, you can't afford to gamble on your top draft picks IF you are in this situation. You have ONE 1st round rated OT at your greatest place of need: RT. So you take him. You don't roll the dice and HOPE that he's there 11 picks later. You fix the glaring problem, get a reasonable OL in place, and begin drafting ahead in later picks and drafts.

LD
 
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