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Why is everybody still so enamored with 40 times???

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Haven't we already established how overrated 40 times are? Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think Jerry Rice had a very spectacular 40 time. He turned out OK.

The only way a 40 yard dash is relevant is if it is run with FULL pads on. And carrying a football. :rimshot:
 
finjim said:
Haven't we already established how overrated 40 times are? Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think Jerry Rice had a very spectacular 40 time. He turned out OK.

The only way a 40 yard dash is relevant is if it is run with FULL pads on. And carrying a football. :rimshot:
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True, but Jerry Rice was a very spectacular wide receiver. All things equal, if you had 2 very similar wide outs and the only thing separating them was their speed, you become very enamored with the 40 yd dash time.
 
finjim said:
Haven't we already established how overrated 40 times are? Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think Jerry Rice had a very spectacular 40 time. He turned out OK.

The only way a 40 yard dash is relevant is if it is run with FULL pads on. And carrying a football. :rimshot:
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a fast guy who can't defeat jams at the LOS is useless

I watched the Patrick Turner highlight video and he is no plodder

15 YPC and 10 TDs is pretty good for a sloth

Heyward-Bey - 15 YPC

Crabtree - 12 YPC

Maclin - 12 YPC

Turner averaged 15 YPC in a pro-style offense, I like that
 
People don't get the concept of "workout warriors" and "game speed". They get all excited over these scrubs who run a 4.2, or can do like 30 bench presses at the combine but really all of that means very little when it comes to the actual games.
 
I watched the Patrick Turner highlight video and he is no plodder

15 YPC and 10 TDs is pretty good for a sloth

Heyward-Bey - 15 YPC

Crabtree - 12 YPC

Maclin - 12 YPC

Turner averaged 15 YPC in a pro-style offense, I like that
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good point ^^

so what if hes SLOWER than other receivers. He still got enough speed to be a good receiver. He dont need to be the fastest guy in the league if he runs good routes and catches everything thrown his way. Alot of people are obsessed with speed like thats the only thing that makes you a good receiver.
 
d-day said:
True, but Jerry Rice was a very spectacular wide receiver. All things equal, if you had 2 very similar wide outs and the only thing separating them was their speed, you become very enamored with the 40 yd dash time.
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Yes, but Jerry Rice wasn't a spectacular WR at the combine. Which is exactly my point. Take this example. Darrius Heyward-Bey ran a BLAZING 40, but his career stats scream out ordinary WR. Too much stock is put on how fast a dude can run in his undies.
 
finjim said:
Yes, but Jerry Rice wasn't a spectacular WR at the combine. Which is exactly my point. Take this example. Darrius Heyward-Bey ran a BLAZING 40, but his career stats scream out ordinary WR. Too much stock is put on how fast a dude can run in his undies.
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:chuckle: No question, look no further than #19 on our roster.
 
d-day said:
:chuckle: No question, look no further than #19 on our roster.
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Ginn was a game breaker in college. I don't consider him a guy who just padded his resume by having a terrific combine. You can clearly see Ted Ginn's effectiveness on Sunday's as he's returned several kicks and caught many nice passes. I just don't think he's consistent enough to be a number one.
 
d-day said:
:chuckle: No question, look no further than #19 on our roster.
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I think of Matt Jones and Vernon Davis. big, fast, invisible

at the '08 combine the sprinter Michael Johnson was coaching guys. its rediculous

for WR's they should have a cone and a blocking pad at the start of the dash along with a standing start
 
SpaceMountain16 said:
Ginn was a game breaker in college. I don't consider him a guy who just padded his resume by having a terrific combine. You can clearly see Ted Ginn's effectiveness on Sunday's as he's returned several kicks and caught many nice passes. I just don't think he's consistent enough to be a number one.
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Ted Ginn had a lisfranic however you spell it foot sprain and didn't do anything at the combine as far as I know.
 
vans12 said:
Ted Ginn had a lisfranic however you spell it foot sprain and didn't do anything at the combine as far as I know.
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Thats right, i forgot about that. But i'm sure he had some kind of private workouts, which i don't think elevated his draft stock to such a degree.
 
i agree the 40 time means nothing to me football speed is diffrent then the 40 time
 
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