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Tell me if my points are not correct guys

1 Free agents at six years, the average career is five in the NFL so most guys may never get that big pay day long term


2 Contracts still not garunteed so if guys get hurt or under produce you save money long term by cutting them

3 If the draft goes away, then teams can sign as many guys they really need no matter what, that increases the percentage of players who dont make a ton of money, outside of the big time talent who is going to get paid anyway.

4 The owners at still going to split the TV, and other moneys which is about 300 million or so per team right

So how does this effect competitive balance, all you need is a good scouting system to bring in a ton of cheap players every year, the league may be alot better because teams can keep guys they developed and add depth to their rosters.
 
In theory... but guys like Jerry Jones will over spend the rest of the league and build a super power team...
 
The NFL has been played for years without a cap, and yes rich owners like jj can pull a steinbrenner, but we have a franchise headed in the right direction, we will be one of those teams who can afford big name talent, but i really do think the deal is getting done, we will find out soon enough
 
1) If there's no cap, we're looking at a baseball type situation. There will be great disparity throughout the league. And we'll have baseball type salaries.

2) If there's no cap, there will be a lockout in 2008.

In short, the NFL is the greatest professional sport in the world. Certainly in America. A lack of an agreement today will push it back down near the also-rans.
 
Well there are a few things that are being left out. One thing is contracts can only be increased by 30%. This means if there is a team that goes out and signs a ton of high priced players and the league and players come to an agreement later this team would be over the cap. Why?? b/c a contract couldn't be set up to absorb most of the expense during the uncapped year.
Also you must understand the uncapped year is just a one year deal. The agreement is only set up for one year after this year. It was set up this way to give both sides as much time as possible to come to terms.
If at the end of both this year and the uncapped 07 season still results in no agreement, then you can count on a work stopage. There would be a strike that would last until the two sides came to an agreement, or we all started watching roller derby, which ever came first.
 
with a cap, your team can be in the cellar in their division one year and in three years could win a SUPER BOWL! No cap means we go back to 3-4 great teams and the rest are average to below average. With a cap in place, it makes most teams competitive and only leaving behind 2-4 teams who down the road in a year or two can win their division. Cap is good for football.
 
canuckfinfreak said:
The NFL has been played for years without a cap,
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Yes. But when there was no cap, there was no free agency. At least nothing like it is today. Player salaries were nowhere near what they are today.

In 1992, Dan Marino became the NFL's highest paid player. His signing bonus was $2 million. Using an wage inflation calculator, that bonus would be worth just under $2.85 million in 2006.

Today, Marino could easily command the $34.5 million Manning got in 2004.

A capless NFL would be much different this time around.
 
all NFL teams are making huge money, this is not and never will be baseball, you have 16 games that is it, the teams are worth huge dollars even in small markets, i think the cap keeps you from being successfull if you have a good franchise because it robs you of depth
 
we need a new CBA, thats the bottom line. without a new CBA, there's no cap, no draft, 5 teams buying out all of the players, and a strike/lockout in 2008. it would take the NFL down a notch over all of the other sports

on a side note, teams can't pay insane salaries for a couple of years if there is no cap. without a new CBA than by rule a players salary can only increase 30% each year
 
Muck said:
Yes. But when there was no cap, there was no free agency. At least nothing like it is today. Player salaries were nowhere near what they are today.

In 1992, Dan Marino became the NFL's highest paid player. His signing bonus was $2 million. Using an wage inflation calculator, that bonus would be worth just under $2.85 million in 2006.

Today, Marino could easily command the $34.5 million Manning got in 2004.

A capless NFL would be much different this time around.
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Different how, the teams that will try and buy their teams will still buy their teams, it will just cost more, i know it will be different, but it wont just impact us, nobody in their right mind wants to see this happen, but its not the end of football
 
It will become like English soccer where the rich teams dominate year after year. Supporters who dont support one of the big teams will get bored of the same teams winning after a while. The only thing that keeps people interested, is the fact that there are several different cup competitions
 
guys quote from mortenson on espn.com " there is always going to be revenue sharing in football, the sky is not falling, all teams small and large will be getting over 200 million dollars a year in revenue, this is not baseball were the margin is so wide and will never be baseball"
 
nick1 said:
we need a new CBA, thats the bottom line. without a new CBA, there's no cap, no draft, 5 teams buying out all of the players, and a strike/lockout in 2008. it would take the NFL down a notch over all of the other sports

on a side note, teams can't pay insane salaries for a couple of years if there is no cap. without a new CBA than by rule a players salary can only increase 30% each year
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That may be true but when you do some math a 4 year contract with a 8 mil starting point the nubers each year would be....

1 - $8,000,000
2 - $10,400,000
3 - $13,520,000
4 - $17,576,000

Total - $49,496,000

30% may not sound like alot but when you play with some numbers, that is up there. And I figured a players saleries this year to be around 6 mil. which is alot of guys out there making that kinda money. So do you really see the small market teams, even with revenue sharing giving 17 mil. to a player? I don't. But I can see the Cowboys , Redskins doing it.
 
Bonedoc7777 said:
all NFL teams are making huge money, this is not and never will be baseball, you have 16 games that is it, the teams are worth huge dollars even in small markets, i think the cap keeps you from being successfull if you have a good franchise because it robs you of depth
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Are you serious? All you have to do is look at the MLB...
 
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