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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/page...a-trades-work-nfl-tuesday-morning-quarterback

Reading this story.

Bit shocking as to the history with mega trades.

Hope Dion Jordan does not stay on this list.

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1. In 2012, Washington gave up three first-rounders, plus a second-round selection, for Griffin, who briefly injected excitement but mostly has been a letdown, with a 13-18 record as a starter. The team's roster is depleted as a result of the deal -- add three first-rounders and a second-round selection to the Washington depth chart, and the Persons might not be in the cellar. The Rams, who received the king's ransom for RG3, hardly are tearing up the league. Since the Griffin mega-trade, Washington is 14-23 and St. Louis is 15-19-1. General managers speak of win-win trades; so far the Griffin deal has been a lose-lose.

2. This April, Buffalo traded two first-round picks -- plus a fourth-rounder -- for Sammy Watkins. He's appeared in only four contests, but the initial impression gives pause. Watkins has been targeted 32 times and made just 17 catches, with six drops. His receiving stats are barely better than those of aging Buffalo utility player Fred Jackson, the league's oldest running back.

3. In 2013, Miami traded first- and second-round choices for Dion Jordan, who's yet to start a game and followed up his PED suspension by getting popped for substance abuse. After the draft, Miami officials boasted that Jordan was a "steal"; so far it looks like the Dolphins are the ones getting burglarized. That same year the Rams traded first- and second-rounders to acquire Tavon Austin, who's had moments but is far from consistent.

4. In 2012, Dallas traded its first- and second-round picks to acquire Claiborne, who exhibits the toxic combination of erratic performance and locker-room tirades.

5. Draft day 2011 saw two king's-ransom transactions. The Falcons gave up two first-rounders, a second-round pick and two fourth-round selections for Julio Jones, while Jacksonville traded first- and second-round selections for Gabbert. Jones is a star, though for the price, Atlanta expected a Super Bowl invitation. The Browns, recipient of the draft bounty, are 14-37 since the Jones deal, which should be viewed as a win for Atlanta. As for Gabbert, he spent the better part of his three seasons in Jacksonville losing football games and redefining the term "bust." When the Jaguars traded him to Santa Clara this offseason, all they received was a sixth-round pick.


Some Old School....

6. In the complex 1989 Herschel Walker deal, Minnesota received Walker and middle-round picks; Dallas got three first-rounders, three second-rounders, other picks and several players. Minnesota never won a playoff game with Walker in the lineup, and when Walker bolted after three seasons, the Vikings still owed Dallas draft choices. The Cowboys used the Walker draft bounty to stock their 1990s Super Bowl three-peat squad.

7. The 1987 Eric Dickerson trade sent Dickerson to the Colts; Cornelius Bennett to the Bills; three first-round picks and three second-rounders, plus players, to the Rams. The Colts never won a playoff game with Dickerson in the lineup. The Rams made the playoffs twice with their Dickerson bounty, but were blown out of their only title appearance in subsequent seasons. Buffalo was the only trade winner, its woe-for-four Super Bowl streak being initiated.

Funny.... no mention of the Saints Ricky trade.

8. After two miserable seasons with identical 6-10 records, Mike Ditka was grasping at straws and flailing about like a drunk who fell off The Riverwalk and into the Mississippi River. He was trying to raise an already sunken ship that he spent the previous two years blowing huge holes in the hull with his own torpedoes. So, he pushed all of his remaining chips to the middle of the table and decided to go "all in" on the 1999 Draft by taking Ricky Williams. The Saints traded away 8 picks, including two 1st rounders, to the Washington Redskins so they could move up from their own #12 spot in the draft to the #5 spot.

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Any others left off the list? Maybe some of the old timers on the board can fill us in.
 
You'd hardly call it a mega-trade, but no doubt we still waiting for the payoff.
 
meh bogus argument. Pick the right player for the right price and it will work fine. A 2 to move up to three overall was a very good deal
 
Trading our 1st and 2nd round pick to move into the top 5 is absolutely a steal. Many team trade multiple 1st rounders to get into the top 5. We just picked the wrong player.
 
I don't think we gave up much to move up and with Ireland picking who here really thinks we would have done anything with the 2nd round pick we gave up?

You can look at our prior drafts where we made no trades under Ireland and conclude it was a lose-lose situation with ourselves lol.

Also, there were a lot around here that wanted Tavon Austin...I wasn't one of them...there were also a lot around here that wanted Jeff Fisher...I wasn't one of them. He's had more draft picks than any other team and he's done nothing with them.
 
Maybe I'm an idiot, but I'm always an advocate for trading down, rather than up. The draft is just so unpredictable, it's always better to have more picks and reduce your risk than it is to go for that "one" guy. How many times can we look back on a draft's "sure things" to see them bust?
Who was that Wake Forest linebacker, maybe 4-5 years ago, went to Seattle number 3 overall I think? Considered the safest pick in that draft. Bust.
 
In all honesty, the trade itself for Jordan probably didn't hurt us much considering EVERY 2nd rounder in Ireland's tenure has been a bust.


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Maybe I'm an idiot, but I'm always an advocate for trading down, rather than up. The draft is just so unpredictable, it's always better to have more picks and reduce your risk than it is to go for that "one" guy. How many times can we look back on a draft's "sure things" to see them bust?
Who was that Wake Forest linebacker, maybe 4-5 years ago, went to Seattle number 3 overall I think? Considered the safest pick in that draft. Bust.

Aaron Curry, 4th Overall by Seahawks 2009.

Played 3 years and was traded to the Raiders for a 7th round pick.

Retired in 2013.


Curry was widely believed to be the best linebacker available in the 2009 NFL Draft.[9] Considered a "safe pick", he was even in the debate for the No. 1 pick overall[10]—which would've made him the first linebacker selected first overall since Aundray Bruce in 1988. ESPN′s Mel Kiper, Jr. compared Curry to Keith Bulluck.[11]

Curry was drafted fourth overall by the Seattle Seahawks in the 2009 NFL Draft. He was the highest drafted linebacker since LaVar Arrington went second overall in the 2000 NFL Draft to the Washington Redskins, and the highest Wake Forest Demon Deacon since Norm Snead went second overall to the Washington Redskins in the 1961 NFL Draft
On August 8, 2009, Curry signed a six-year, $60 million contract including $34 million guaranteed,[SUP][16][/SUP] the most money ever guaranteed to a non-quarterback rookie in NFL history

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Julio Jones and Sammy Watkins are draft day steals.
 
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