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Why not Garoppolo?

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Despite the end of game runs, I am still off the Tua bandwagon at present. Rodgers/Wilson are never going to come here and Watson would be a huge mistake. Mayfield is hopeless.

But why not trade for Garoppolo? He is clearly better than Tua is now. He is 30, which these days means he has 7-8 years left easily. The 49ers (irrationally in my view) want to move ahead with Lance and I suspect he could be had for less than a first round pick. They don't have a lot of cap room. He would probably want to play in Miami. It seems like the obvious move to me.

In my view Garoppolo is massively underrated. He is in the top 15 starters based on productivity in the league when he is healthy. He just seems to be the fall guy for the Superbowl loss, yet when healthy he consistently has put the 49ers in contention. And even when injured, he got them into the playoffs today. Can we really say Tua could have played that way, down by 17 in a must win game against a better team?

It would seem to me to be both an upgrade and a low enough price - we can always keep Tua and he can relieve Garoppolo and maybe down the track he can take over - right now, I cannot see us as a playoff team next season if we stand pat at QB. It seems a far better deal that spending multiple first rounders on Watson. I understand he has had injury issues, but Tua has a similar history, and there is nothing there that can't heal for next season. Frankly, Tua looks like he needs major corrective action in his technique if he is to become a genuine star.

If I was in the FO I would make a major push for him. And hope he does not make a deep playoff run which is certainly not out of the question.
 
Because he doesn't elevate his game or make big time throws. He regressed after he failed to win the Super Bowl and was generally carried by a really talented team in getting there.

He was an exciting QB prospect but his career has gone backwards since he failed to nail the throws that would have turned a 20-10 lead in the Super Bowl into an actual win.
 
26 mil per year contract for year worth of service, plus draft picks
 
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I think Garopollo would be a solid acquisition. The Dolphins need a good backup in case Tua misses games again in 2022.
Good idea. Once Garopollo goes in for Tua it would be a match made in heaven. Tua becomes comfortable staying 2nd string and continues to be ready in case Garopollo goes down.
 
Good idea. Once Garopollo goes in for Tua it would be a match made in heaven. Tua becomes comfortable staying 2nd string and continues to be ready in case Garopollo goes down.
Kinda tongue-in-cheek, but we really do need a solid #2 if we’re sticking with Tua in 2022. Although, if we can remove Jesse Davis, Eichenberg, Dieter, and Jackson from the starting five on the offensive line, maybe Tua could play 17 games.
 
Despite the end of game runs, I am still off the Tua bandwagon at present. Rodgers/Wilson are never going to come here and Watson would be a huge mistake. Mayfield is hopeless.

But why not trade for Garoppolo? He is clearly better than Tua is now. He is 30, which these days means he has 7-8 years left easily. The 49ers (irrationally in my view) want to move ahead with Lance and I suspect he could be had for less than a first round pick. They don't have a lot of cap room. He would probably want to play in Miami. It seems like the obvious move to me.

In my view Garoppolo is massively underrated. He is in the top 15 starters based on productivity in the league when he is healthy. He just seems to be the fall guy for the Superbowl loss, yet when healthy he consistently has put the 49ers in contention. And even when injured, he got them into the playoffs today. Can we really say Tua could have played that way, down by 17 in a must win game against a better team?

It would seem to me to be both an upgrade and a low enough price - we can always keep Tua and he can relieve Garoppolo and maybe down the track he can take over - right now, I cannot see us as a playoff team next season if we stand pat at QB. It seems a far better deal that spending multiple first rounders on Watson. I understand he has had injury issues, but Tua has a similar history, and there is nothing there that can't heal for next season. Frankly, Tua looks like he needs major corrective action in his technique if he is to become a genuine star.

If I was in the FO I would make a major push for him. And hope he does not make a deep playoff run which is certainly not out of the question.
No, thanks he's very injury prone and I don't feel he's any better than Tua. Now there used to be word about Raiders and Carr being a FA, tho I doubt it now after him getting raiders to playoffs. But I think he's quite underrated. All the FA would cost to much picks of there were any qbs. I think Carr is a franchise qb and the raiders have been such a dysfunction for so many years yet helped get wins
 
Despite the end of game runs, I am still off the Tua bandwagon at present. Rodgers/Wilson are never going to come here and Watson would be a huge mistake. Mayfield is hopeless.

But why not trade for Garoppolo? He is clearly better than Tua is now. He is 30, which these days means he has 7-8 years left easily. The 49ers (irrationally in my view) want to move ahead with Lance and I suspect he could be had for less than a first round pick. They don't have a lot of cap room. He would probably want to play in Miami. It seems like the obvious move to me.

In my view Garoppolo is massively underrated. He is in the top 15 starters based on productivity in the league when he is healthy. He just seems to be the fall guy for the Superbowl loss, yet when healthy he consistently has put the 49ers in contention. And even when injured, he got them into the playoffs today. Can we really say Tua could have played that way, down by 17 in a must win game against a better team?

It would seem to me to be both an upgrade and a low enough price - we can always keep Tua and he can relieve Garoppolo and maybe down the track he can take over - right now, I cannot see us as a playoff team next season if we stand pat at QB. It seems a far better deal that spending multiple first rounders on Watson. I understand he has had injury issues, but Tua has a similar history, and there is nothing there that can't heal for next season. Frankly, Tua looks like he needs major corrective action in his technique if he is to become a genuine star.

If I was in the FO I would make a major push for him. And hope he does not make a deep playoff run which is certainly not out of the question.
"He is in the top 15 starters based on productivity in the league when he is healthy." He's stayed healthy 1 season and played behind some good O-lines. Nobody can succeed in Miami with no blocking.
 
I think Garopollo would be a solid acquisition. The Dolphins need a good backup in case Tua misses games again in 2022.
Ha! Now that’s funny. Getting Garopollo out of San Francisco will cost us our first round pick so the one going to the bench will be Tua.
 
He’s probably not any better than Tua at this point and Tua has a much higher ceiling. Tua is also way cheaper and won’t cost picks. I see no advantage money and resources can be used to upgrade oline or wideouts.
What good will it do bringing in more receivers when Tua can’t throw the ball beyond ten yards?
 
What good will it do bringing in more receivers when Tua can’t throw the ball beyond ten yards?



He didn’t just forget how to throw deep… our oline is the worst in the league by miles. Our wideouts besides waddle create zero separation. I’m not sure why I have to explain to you that throwing to a guy who beats his coverage while having time to set your feet and throw a pass is going to be much easier than throwing to a guy in tight coverage while you’re getting crushed immediately when you throw…
 


He didn’t just forget how to throw deep… our oline is the worst in the league by miles. Our wideouts besides waddle create zero separation. I’m not sure why I have to explain to you that throwing to a guy who beats his coverage while having time to set your feet and throw a pass is going to be much easier than throwing to a guy in tight coverage while you’re getting crushed immediately when you throw…


1) His receivers are generally more open or much more athletic so its easier to put out there, whether it's deep or intermediate. That's not how playing QB is in the NFL.

2) A college football is smaller, so you can actually chuck it a good bit further/more accurate despite the size not sounding that different.

As a younger teen i could throw a college ball a good 50+ yards but not hit 35 with an NFL ball, so when any people go BUT SO AND SO COULD MAKE THE THROW IN COLLEGE I just zone out, because it means they have no idea what they are evaluating in the first place.

Timmy Chang could also throw spot on deep balls, its all he could throw, but my point is being able to do so in college doesn't imply the ability in the NFL as consistently or well, with the key word being consistently.

I know he CAN that isn't my issue
 
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