Sinister
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I read a post on the forum about Players who need to be cut and it motivated me to post my 1st thread.
Let me preface this by saying I am a die hard Phins fan and have been my entire life regardless that I live in NY in Jets/Giants/Bills country. So I hear criticism a ton.
What I do see on here is a lot of B.S about cutting certain players. A couple I really want to address:
1 - Ted Ginn: This is the most hated WR on our roster next to Wilford. I think a lot of people are expecting Ginn to be the next T.O or Chad Johnson and thus because he isn't, your all ready to cast him off as a bust. If ANYONE looked at his numbers they have improved. But what is more impressive is he has improved CONSIDERING he has had to adjust to Cleo Lemon, John Beck, Josh McCown, and now Chad Pennington...AS WELL as a whole new offensive system and organization culture. Get off Ginn, if we lost him by cutting him loose a lot of people would be changing your tune in a few years. Think of him as a Terry Glenn type with a potential (although slight) to be a Steve Smith type WR.
2- Channing Crowder: Love hearing all the rips on him and the call to cut him. Give me a break. The dude is SOLID. Don't believe me? Research his stats but when you do ALSO look hard at the KC game and see how our lineup would look without him. Also Consider that he played injured against the jets and Ravens. Enough said. We need to BUILD, not keep interchanging parts. That is half the reason we have been failing.
3- Samson Satele - Guy is a beast. Look how many sacks he gave up THEN go on a rant. He is consistent and tough as nails. Not too many times will you see him on the injury list. So get over it and GET REAL
4 - Vernon Carey - Had a solid season. Consider that he also has played EVERy position at the line making him more impressive and also more valuable/versatile. He had a good year don't fault him for having an off day against the Ravens of all Defenses....Jeez
5 - Renaldo Hill - This guy makes me wanna pull my hair out.Seriously. BUT as much as I cringe when I see his name in the secondary he is a LEADER and relishes the role as LEADER. He has a high football IQ (which doesn't ALWAYS translate on the field as far as play goes) and is a hell of a mentor for any Safety we draft. I say resign him.
6- Jason Allen - Made GREAT strides this year. I think he is a solid dime or nickel corner and a GOOD special teams player. Again, take into consideration how many positions he has played. Versitility is value. He is damn fast 2 and you never hear a gripe out of him. Sure he isn't a shut down, but he did a good job against Moss and showed a ton of promise.
7 - Matt Roth - Your a fool if you think we should lose him. He has a motor like Porter and decent speed. I saw him in the backfield agains the Ravens and not MANY Phins were. We played a great team and a SOLID veteram O-Line. They used a TON of box blocking protection schemes such as Jumbo and 3 TE sets....against or 3-4...It's tough enough to win that matchup as it is but take into account it was the Ravens D...so get off of dude. Sign him up and seal the deal!
Those are just my thoughts on this whole thing. Yes I am disappointed but we played a great team. Chad tried to make things happen and it didn't work but he is the QB we have to live and die with. He got us this far and is going to be a heck of a mentor for Henne...
I love the passion but let's be realistic.
As far as the draft....go with the lines again. Long and Lankford were excellent picks and Merling wasnt too shabby. Think they are bad?!?! We could have drafted Ghoulston!!! I say we go DT 1st round, then DB/Safety with our 2nd round picks....3rd would be a good spot to nab a Guard...Keep in mind WRs are always deep in the draft and we aren't DESPERATE for a WR anymore. Free Agency is always an option.
Hope you guys aren't too brutal on me! this is my first thread. But if any of you head up to NY for any reason, check out this site:
518fever.com
to find out about the upstate nightlife.:beer1:
There, now i got my cheap plug in:hi5:
Let me preface this by saying I am a die hard Phins fan and have been my entire life regardless that I live in NY in Jets/Giants/Bills country. So I hear criticism a ton.
What I do see on here is a lot of B.S about cutting certain players. A couple I really want to address:
1 - Ted Ginn: This is the most hated WR on our roster next to Wilford. I think a lot of people are expecting Ginn to be the next T.O or Chad Johnson and thus because he isn't, your all ready to cast him off as a bust. If ANYONE looked at his numbers they have improved. But what is more impressive is he has improved CONSIDERING he has had to adjust to Cleo Lemon, John Beck, Josh McCown, and now Chad Pennington...AS WELL as a whole new offensive system and organization culture. Get off Ginn, if we lost him by cutting him loose a lot of people would be changing your tune in a few years. Think of him as a Terry Glenn type with a potential (although slight) to be a Steve Smith type WR.
2- Channing Crowder: Love hearing all the rips on him and the call to cut him. Give me a break. The dude is SOLID. Don't believe me? Research his stats but when you do ALSO look hard at the KC game and see how our lineup would look without him. Also Consider that he played injured against the jets and Ravens. Enough said. We need to BUILD, not keep interchanging parts. That is half the reason we have been failing.
3- Samson Satele - Guy is a beast. Look how many sacks he gave up THEN go on a rant. He is consistent and tough as nails. Not too many times will you see him on the injury list. So get over it and GET REAL
4 - Vernon Carey - Had a solid season. Consider that he also has played EVERy position at the line making him more impressive and also more valuable/versatile. He had a good year don't fault him for having an off day against the Ravens of all Defenses....Jeez
5 - Renaldo Hill - This guy makes me wanna pull my hair out.Seriously. BUT as much as I cringe when I see his name in the secondary he is a LEADER and relishes the role as LEADER. He has a high football IQ (which doesn't ALWAYS translate on the field as far as play goes) and is a hell of a mentor for any Safety we draft. I say resign him.
6- Jason Allen - Made GREAT strides this year. I think he is a solid dime or nickel corner and a GOOD special teams player. Again, take into consideration how many positions he has played. Versitility is value. He is damn fast 2 and you never hear a gripe out of him. Sure he isn't a shut down, but he did a good job against Moss and showed a ton of promise.
7 - Matt Roth - Your a fool if you think we should lose him. He has a motor like Porter and decent speed. I saw him in the backfield agains the Ravens and not MANY Phins were. We played a great team and a SOLID veteram O-Line. They used a TON of box blocking protection schemes such as Jumbo and 3 TE sets....against or 3-4...It's tough enough to win that matchup as it is but take into account it was the Ravens D...so get off of dude. Sign him up and seal the deal!
Those are just my thoughts on this whole thing. Yes I am disappointed but we played a great team. Chad tried to make things happen and it didn't work but he is the QB we have to live and die with. He got us this far and is going to be a heck of a mentor for Henne...
I love the passion but let's be realistic.
As far as the draft....go with the lines again. Long and Lankford were excellent picks and Merling wasnt too shabby. Think they are bad?!?! We could have drafted Ghoulston!!! I say we go DT 1st round, then DB/Safety with our 2nd round picks....3rd would be a good spot to nab a Guard...Keep in mind WRs are always deep in the draft and we aren't DESPERATE for a WR anymore. Free Agency is always an option.
Hope you guys aren't too brutal on me! this is my first thread. But if any of you head up to NY for any reason, check out this site:
518fever.com
to find out about the upstate nightlife.:beer1:
There, now i got my cheap plug in:hi5:
