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Why the blind loyalty to Cam?

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Don't get me wrong, I like Cam Cameron and hope that he leads the Dolphins back to greatness. But on this website it's as if you say something bad about Cameron you get crucified. My question is, what has he done to deserve such loyalty? He hasn't made many amazing moves in free agency. They got Joey Porter who they probably overpayed for and they traded Wes Welker which was more a product of the Pats being overly agressive than any type of manuevering on our part. If the big daddy trade gets nullified he's only added the 2 picks for Welker which again was just the Pats overpaying for an average player.

I guess you could make a case that Cam hasn't overpayed for mediocre free agents that are littering the market this year. And that he isn't trying to address key position concerns with veterans who wont be around long enough to make a difference. These things were abundant in the Saban, Wannstedt and Jimmy Johnson era. If Cameron does something amazing in the draft then maybe we can have a bit more faith in him. But I'll reserve my judgement for when he gets something done on the field. After all I'm sure that the majority of you singing Cameron's praises also thought that Nick Saban was the second coming of Don Shula.
 
Trowa said:
Don't get me wrong, I like Cam Cameron and hope that he leads the Dolphins back to greatness. But on this website it's as if you say something bad about Cameron you get crucified. My question is, what has he done to deserve such loyalty? He hasn't made many amazing moves in free agency. They got Joey Porter who they probably overpayed for and they traded Wes Welker which was more a product of the Pats being overly agressive than any type of manuevering on our part. If the big daddy trade gets nullified he's only added the 2 picks for Welker which again was just the Pats overpaying for an average player.

I guess you could make a case that Cam hasn't overpayed for mediocre free agents that are littering the market this year. And that he isn't trying to address key position concerns with veterans who wont be around long enough to make a difference. These things were abundant in the Saban, Wannstedt and Jimmy Johnson era. If Cameron does something amazing in the draft then maybe we can have a bit more faith in him. But I'll reserve my judgement for when he gets something done on the field. After all I'm sure that the majority of you singing Cameron's praises also thought that Nick Saban was the second coming of Don Shula.
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LOL.

I remember when Saban was hired.

Everyone changed their avatar or sig to his picture.

People put his quotes in their sig as the "gospel according to Nick."

People viewed him as the second coming of Christ.

Thanks for the reminder.
 
i don´t see a lovefest for him, actually there are many criticals out there because of the decisions he made so far, so honestly i don´get your point
 
Crisis said:
LOL.

I remember when Saban was hired.

Everyone changed their avatar or sig to his picture.

People put his quotes in their sig as the "gospel according to Nick."

People viewed him as the second coming of Christ.

Thanks for the reminder.
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Cameron hasn't had nearly the fanfare as Saban. However, he seems to have a better understanding of the NFL game than Saban and, more importantly, he seems to trust his GM and allows him to evaluate players. Saban did not know how to delegate and he was so afraid of making a mistake and failing that it made him indecisive and hesitant.
 
He hasn't done anything bad either yet. Thing is: coaches are judged by their results on the field - no matter how they fare in free agency or the draft. Since Coach Cameron hasn't done anything on gameday for the Dolphins he is still being judged by the things he accomplished in his last job. And those are amazing. I like to think that is the reason most people support him. And because he is the coach of the darn coolest football team on the planet.
 
i agree saban had no trust and could not delagate,cam is on the clock and time will tell, he seems to think he can handle the offence and make them better, he says he owes it to the team, not to many offencive moves except for purging,still unsettled at OL,QB, lets see how the next 6weeks pan out cant complain right now
 
jlfin said:
However, he seems to have a better understanding of the NFL game than Saban...
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Based on what. Show me a single "professional" and unbias evalution of the Dolphins off-season that is possitive. Every analysis I have seen thus far has been negative. They can't all be wrong.

"He hasn't done anything bad either yet."

The McMichael thing was handled poorly. I refuse to believe we could not get a single draft pick for the guy. More the GM's fault but such a poor move that everyone gets some blame. Because Cam is delegating (correctly in my oppinion) I will reserve my judgement for what he does from the sidelines.
 
Trowa said:
Don't get me wrong, I like Cam Cameron and hope that he leads the Dolphins back to greatness. But on this website it's as if you say something bad about Cameron you get crucified. My question is, what has he done to deserve such loyalty? He hasn't made many amazing moves in free agency. They got Joey Porter who they probably overpayed for and they traded Wes Welker which was more a product of the Pats being overly agressive than any type of manuevering on our part. If the big daddy trade gets nullified he's only added the 2 picks for Welker which again was just the Pats overpaying for an average player.

I guess you could make a case that Cam hasn't overpayed for mediocre free agents that are littering the market this year. And that he isn't trying to address key position concerns with veterans who wont be around long enough to make a difference. These things were abundant in the Saban, Wannstedt and Jimmy Johnson era. If Cameron does something amazing in the draft then maybe we can have a bit more faith in him. But I'll reserve my judgement for when he gets something done on the field. After all I'm sure that the majority of you singing Cameron's praises also thought that Nick Saban was the second coming of Don Shula.
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I see where you're coming from. But there definitely isn't nearly as much ridiculous blind optimism as there was when Saban was brought in. There seems to be more of a sense of GUARDED optimism. I'll approach the Cameron era the same way I approached the Saban era: SHOW me something first.

The thing I'm happiest about is that we seem to finally be on the track of building this team for the future instead of trying to plug HUGE holes with average (at best) players. It looks like Cameron and Mueller have decided to do what the past coaches haven't: BUILD this team with the draft, get young, and make us legitimate contenders again.
 
Hey, folks. We have a General Manager.

Almost every post on this board is still suffering from Post Saban Trauma and the need for immediate gratification. Cameron is not the force behind these moves. These are Meuller's moves, after consulting with Cameron.. But Cameron does not have the final say. So, right now, he gets a pass because all he can do is consult with the GM. The GM is taking what Cameron wants/hopes to find and processing it, and we have just begun. Free agency is not through, and it is not deep. The draft has not happened yet, and it is deep in some positions, thin as gruel at others. And IIRC, there will be more free agency signings after the draft as well. Trying to negotiate these processes for the long term takes patience - which a lot of us don't have.
 
it's early in the game... you can BET there are haters out there... and the second Cam does something questionable they will come out of the woodwork like ****roaches... just look at the Daunte issue.. somewhere down the line you will see guys with the "I never wanted Cam anyway" show up to bash him. Look at the "no O coordinator" issue...some unhappyness squeezed out there and when Cam doesn't pick "someone's" favorite in the draft, he will suck for sure... it won't be long...
 
Because we want to believe in him. We want him to be Don Shula. We want stability.

It's like a new girlfriend. Early on, everything is perfect...then she farts in bed.
 
I like a woman who isn't frightened to let a little of her natural flatulence out now and again.

Anyway, I think Cam Cameron is getting a bit of a bye in the same way backup QBs do; They've not done anything so they can't do anything wrong. People want to be positive and hopeful about the sports team they support and will try to read positives into anything but it's a kind of 'honeymoon period' which will disappear pretty quickly once the season starts unless Miami wins a lot. In fact, as previously stated, it may well have disappeared long before the season even gets to start.

Let him enjoy his minor adulation now (It's absolutely nothing compared to the ridiculous worship Nick Saban got) while it lasts. We're a fickle bitchy bunch and it won't be long until we're calling for him to be burned alive.
 
THis is kinda dumb. Any fan is going to be excited about a new coach and the possibility of winning again brings. Blind loyalty is a bit melodramatic I think.
 
Duriel said:
Because we want to believe in him. We want him to be Don Shula. We want stability.

It's like a new girlfriend. Early on, everything is perfect...then she farts in bed.
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