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you know hwat i just came to realize...if miami was SOOO high on Cutler, why didnt tehy trade up for him? I mean, we offered a trade to move up and get Ngata with the browns but they wanted to much so we didnt but hten for a QB that we were supposably so high on we didnt even do anything about it.

Its as if our team lacks the ability to capitalize on the most important position in the darn game!

If we are so high on quinn, why would we offer a trade if we didnt last year but did on a stupid D lineman that we drafted about 3 of in late rounds, had traylor and had NO DAMN QB! was it b/c we got culpepper and had complete faith in him? I think so, but it just randomly crossed my mind.

What did Denver give up again to move up? and what was there original position?

I think taht move will pay off very damn well for denver. Time for miami to grow some balls and take a risk, if we fail so what! we have4 failed for 18 years already, whats another fail going to do? Isn't like we have tried to "fix" those mistakes we keep making em over and over again.
 
SR 7 said:
you know hwat i just came to realize...if miami was SOOO high on Cutler, why didnt tehy trade up for him? I mean, we offered a trade to move up and get Ngata with the browns but they wanted to much so we didnt but hten for a QB that we were supposably so high on we didnt even do anything about it.

Its as if our team lacks the ability to capitalize on the most important position in the darn game!

If we are so high on quinn, why would we offer a trade if we didnt last year but did on a stupid D lineman that we drafted about 3 of in late rounds, had traylor and had NO DAMN QB! was it b/c we got culpepper and had complete faith in him? I think so, but it just randomly crossed my mind.

What did Denver give up again to move up? and what was there original position?

I think taht move will pay off very damn well for denver. Time for miami to grow some balls and take a risk, if we fail so what! we have4 failed for 18 years already, whats another fail going to do? Isn't like we have tried to "fix" those mistakes we keep making em over and over again.
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I'm not sure why we didn't trade up for Cutler, but trying to trade up for Ngata wasn't a bad idea at all. That "stupid D lineman" was one of the most productive, game-changing rookies in all of football last year, tell me we couldn't use him at nose tackle once Traylor retires/leaves.
 
SR 7 said:
you know hwat i just came to realize...if miami was SOOO high on Cutler, why didnt tehy trade up for him? I mean, we offered a trade to move up and get Ngata with the browns but they wanted to much so we didnt but hten for a QB that we were supposably so high on we didnt even do anything about it.

Its as if our team lacks the ability to capitalize on the most important position in the darn game!

If we are so high on quinn, why would we offer a trade if we didnt last year but did on a stupid D lineman that we drafted about 3 of in late rounds, had traylor and had NO DAMN QB! was it b/c we got culpepper and had complete faith in him? I think so, but it just randomly crossed my mind.

What did Denver give up again to move up? and what was there original position?

I think taht move will pay off very damn well for denver. Time for miami to grow some balls and take a risk, if we fail so what! we have4 failed for 18 years already, whats another fail going to do? Isn't like we have tried to "fix" those mistakes we keep making em over and over again.
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Miami just signed Daunte Culpepper before last years draft and they didnt know that he would suck, so thats why they didnt pull the trigger on Jay Cutler
 
i rather wait and see waht we have at DT before we draft one. let alone in round 1. evans vickerson and wright have potential but wright had an AMZING potential on the table.
 
Who says we were that high on Cutler? And Saban isnt in charge this year, so us not moving last year doesnt mean anything for this year.
 
SR 7 said:
you know hwat i just came to realize...if miami was SOOO high on Cutler, why didnt tehy trade up for him? I mean, we offered a trade to move up and get Ngata with the browns but they wanted to much so we didnt but hten for a QB that we were supposably so high on we didnt even do anything about it.

Its as if our team lacks the ability to capitalize on the most important position in the darn game!

If we are so high on quinn, why would we offer a trade if we didnt last year but did on a stupid D lineman that we drafted about 3 of in late rounds, had traylor and had NO DAMN QB! was it b/c we got culpepper and had complete faith in him? I think so, but it just randomly crossed my mind.

What did Denver give up again to move up? and what was there original position?

I think taht move will pay off very damn well for denver. Time for miami to grow some balls and take a risk, if we fail so what! we have4 failed for 18 years already, whats another fail going to do? Isn't like we have tried to "fix" those mistakes we keep making em over and over again.
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Because Nick "The Genius" Saban solved our QB problems.
 
SR 7 said:
you know hwat i just came to realize...if miami was SOOO high on Cutler, why didnt tehy trade up for him? I mean, we offered a trade to move up and get Ngata with the browns but they wanted to much so we didnt but hten for a QB that we were supposably so high on we didnt even do anything about it.

Its as if our team lacks the ability to capitalize on the most important position in the darn game!

If we are so high on quinn, why would we offer a trade if we didnt last year but did on a stupid D lineman that we drafted about 3 of in late rounds, had traylor and had NO DAMN QB! was it b/c we got culpepper and had complete faith in him? I think so, but it just randomly crossed my mind.

What did Denver give up again to move up? and what was there original position?

I think taht move will pay off very damn well for denver. Time for miami to grow some balls and take a risk, if we fail so what! we have4 failed for 18 years already, whats another fail going to do? Isn't like we have tried to "fix" those mistakes we keep making em over and over again.
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First, I'm not sure Miami was high on Cutler. Not as high as I was anyway-more on this later. Second, we already had DC in the mix, and quite frankly, no matter what many are now saying, it would have been wasteful to have taken a Qb on the first day.

As for Quinn, I'm desperately hoping that R Mueller and CC are not as high on him as many others are on this site. The reality is that Quinn will likely be selected in the first 5 picks and I think the price to acquire him will be steep.
Cutler didn't go nearly as high, and yet I think he will be a better Qb than Quinn.
IMO, this year's crop of Qbs is realtively weak. I think Stanton will be the best pick, based on value. This isn't to suggest that he will necessarily be better than Quinn but I think a second round pick (which is where I think he will go) is a better investment than a top 5 pick on Quinn.
 
fins2354 said:
Miami just signed Daunte Culpepper before last years draft and they didnt know that he would suck, so thats why they didnt pull the trigger on Jay Cutler
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exactly. culpepper was already on the team for the 2nd round pick last year.

half the people on here don't want to draft a QB like quinn and half wonder why we haven't traded away half our picks to move up in previous drafts
 
phinphanforever said:
First, I'm not sure Miami was high on Cutler. Not as high as I was anyway-more on this later. Second, we already had DC in the mix, and quite frankly, no matter what many are now saying, it would have been wasteful to have taken a Qb on the first day.

As for Quinn, I'm desperately hoping that R Mueller and CC are not as high on him as many others are on this site. The reality is that Quinn will likely be selected in the first 5 picks and I think the price to acquire him will be steep.
Cutler didn't go nearly as high, and yet I think he will be a better Qb than Quinn.
IMO, this year's crop of Qbs is realtively weak. I think Stanton will be the best pick, based on value. This isn't to suggest that he will necessarily be better than Quinn but I think a second round pick (which is where I think he will go) is a better investment than a top 5 pick on Quinn.
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quinn will be a franchise QB and will be better than russell, stanton will not have any pressure as a 2nd round pick, but he also isn't going to turn a franchise around like quinn can
 
aerokev said:
exactly. culpepper was already on the team for the 2nd round pick last year.
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Exactly, which means Miami would have spent a 1st on a QB, a 2nd on a QB, and because they would have probably needed to part with a first day draft pick to move up, a 3rd for a QB.

So then Miami would then possibly have bigger holes at Safety, because they wouldn't have had Jason Allen (I know, but it's still too early to label him a bust) and WR (where Hagan may become a player also).
 
VT Dolphan said:
I'm not sure why we didn't trade up for Cutler, but trying to trade up for Ngata wasn't a bad idea at all. That "stupid D lineman" was one of the most productive, game-changing rookies in all of football last year, tell me we couldn't use him at nose tackle once Traylor retires/leaves.
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I'll tell you why. It was Saban. It has already been reported that one of Saban's shortcomings was his indecisiveness.
He wasn't confident with his own evaluations. It's one of several reasons why he failed at this level.
 
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