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Is the wildcat a gimmick scheme, or a legitimate (hard knocks, straight-up) football formation? Think as a football fan when answering and not (try not) to think as a Dolfan.

As for me, it is a legitimate football play. What's your angle? Remember football fan on this one and not a fin fan. :up:
 
It's the best thing we got,right now.
So,when we run it,it's a legitimate football play.
When somebody else runs it,it's a gimmick.
 
A&O said:
Is the wildcat a gimmick scheme, or a legitimate (hard knocks, straight-up) football formation? Think as a football fan when answering and not (try not) to think as a Dolfan.

As for me, it is a legitimate football play. What's your angle? Remember football fan on this one and not a fin fan. :up:
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two things that makes plays both offensively and defensively work is talent and creativeness to confuse the opposing side. What the wildcats does for us when run correctly is it confuses man on man match ups leaving holes for the man with the ball to run through.

I truely think the wild cat is a legit play but does not mean team can't figure them out. Ravens with the defense they have did well on man to man match ups and they also know that 9 times of out 10 ronnie runs with it or is pitch back to the qb or another runner, so they use a blitz package.

Ronnie will most likely not throw it which that brings up why we drafted pat white. Right now we are not liking this pick but i still think he gots a little bit to learn to be effective.

Although i think he will most likely never pan out because he is too small but more importantly seems to be shy and does not have the leadership quality's to be a qb in the nfl level. but i certainly hope i am really wrong about that.
 
its just a formation with a guy in motion... really theres nothing i see gimmicky about it...

its a power rushing formation, all it allows us to do is have an extra blocker basically in the box when theres no QB to account for...

though i dont know what people really mean by gimmicky, that to me means a sneaky way of doing things... but i dont think its that, we line em up and basically giving away to the defense that we are running, sure there MIGHT be a pass, but thats like being 3rd and 1 in a power formation, its most likely a run, just like the wildcat is most likely a run, and we run it down their throats...... if anything the no huddle, or the sugar huddle as they call it is gimmicky, your trying to get plays off quick without letting the defense change personnel... i can see that as gimmicky... but the wildcat, no
 
true triple option is all were are running. I love the veer. Just normally it isnt used in the NFL because it was too dangerious for QB's. In our case in the wild cat, the dive play comes 4 yards deep in the back field with a running back having a full head of steam. The wildcat is solid.
 
In its base set it is the most basic football attacking philosophy... Create mismatches and overpower. The options inside of it are what make it even a little gimmicky. but as a philosophy it is basic football.
 
i live in DC, so i was listening to the LaVar Arrington Show on the radio and a caller called in and was complaining how bad the redskins are and of course they are, but he suggested the skins running the wildcat and LaVar told him, after watching the colts dolphins game on monday, he recognized that the wildcat is more like an art than a formation. he was saying how hard it would be to run, and how the redskins can't just say, lets run the wildcat, he was basically saying that it is a legit scheme and i agree. his point has been proved by last year, all the other teams attempting to run the wildcat, and failing. no one has had success like the dolphins, it is an art
 
Its all about how you use it. It can be anything you want it to be. We use it as a power running formation and its been working for us.
 
It's definately a legit offense, despite what some of the commentators say (jaws). But like all other offenses, you need the right personnel. And like other offenses, it has weeknesses. With the Wildcat, you MUST have the threat of being able to throw over the top deep if the D brings up the safeties. We haven't done that, so I look for teams to put 8 in the box. Ronnie can do it down near the goal line on simple plays, but eventually you need someone (White) to be able to run or throw it deep. That's why most pro teams don't do it. They don't want the QB to run (and take hits) or their RB can't really throw it deep and accurate. I think they are hoping White was the answer, but I'm not sure he can take the hits either.
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For the "Wildcat" to work you have to have a player in the "QB" position who can run between the tackles. Ronnie brown is great at this.

Pat White cannot do it.
 
A side comment: White will pan-out and give our offense a giant wildcat boost by year two of his NFL career.
 
essentially you're putting 8 blockers and one ball carrier in the box against 8 defenders. Simple math shows that you have a blocker for every defender and the ball carrier runs free until he meets that safety, which is why we were eating up 8-9 yards a play with the wildcat against Indy. About Pat White, White will likely not run the Wildcat in the traditional sense, but more of a spread style offense with some designed runs, however it will still operate on the same principle as the wildcat in that even when the defense stacks the box, it is still a formation we can run the ball out of.
 
In my opinion the wildcat is a legit formation when it is pure power run formation. It becomes more gimmicky when you throw in pennington as a wide out like they were doing last year. It really just boils down to being one of the most basic but best power options out there. If the line gets push and creates holes its a gain if not its normally a loss just like any other run play.
 
It's amazing to me how well they handled ball exchanges in the WC - I can't remember any drops or fumbles. RB does his best work in the WC formation.
 
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