Will Albert's Deal Compare to Pouncey's New One?

[So Be]

Albert signed a 5 year $47M deal with $20M guaranteed. He got an $8.5M signing bonus, pro-rated at $1.7M per year, and his 2014 salary of $2,5M and 2015 $9.M were guaranteed. That took care of all guaranteed money in 2 years.

His cap hits were $4.225M, and $10.725 the first 2 years with $10.150, #10.6M, and $11.3M non-guaranteed the last 3 years.

Pouncey is almost the same to start with and could get a similar deal. Don't know but, who would complain if it were?

The new deal may be part of another deal as well. No one should complain if added cap space fills another need.

I'm betting than when all is said and done, most will really like what we did.

 

[JTC111]

You have to factor in that Albert was signed to play left tackle, a more important position than center.

 

[So Be]

You have to factor in that Albert was signed to play left tackle, a more important position than center.

Agreed but, just looking at the money. Albert's overall deal is very close to what Pouncey signed, and I'm looking at how Red Dawn structured that deal which was Well Done.

 

[JTC111]

Agreed but, just looking at the money. Albert's overall deal is very close to what Pouncey signed, and I'm looking at how Red Dawn structured that deal which was Well Done.

I haven't looked at all the details, but if the money is near the same, I feel like we overpaid to keep him. Center isn't a position I think important enough to overpay. Just my opinion.

 

[So Be]

I haven't looked at all the details, but if the money is near the same, I feel like we overpaid to keep him. Center isn't a position I think important enough to overpay. Just my opinion.

Details are not yet available. Yet, most overreact without them, which is kinda silly. Without them, we have no idea if we overpaid, underpaid or, paid fair market value. Overall contracts, in the NFL, are completely useless other than guaranteed money and how it is paid.

 

[dlockz]

we always talk about how great we structure deals yet in the end most of our deals turn out to be right on the average of the contract.
Ellerbee, wheeler, Wallace , Harrtline all these deals left significant dead money when it was to cut them , if we had to cut them.
The dolphins do no better a job than structuring their deals than any team in the league. In fact all one has to do is look at all the dead money we have this year.

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we always talk about how great we structure deals yet in the end most of our deals turn out to be right on the average of the contract.
Ellerbee, wheeler, Wallace , Harrtline all these deals left significant dead money when it was to cut them , if we had to cut them.
The dolphins do no better a job than structuring their deals than any team in the league. In fact all one has to do is look at all the dead money we have this year.

 

[So Be]

we always talk about how great we structure deals yet in the end most of our deals turn out to be right on the average of the contract.
Ellerbee, wheeler, Wallace , Harrtline all these deals left significant dead money when it was to cut them , if we had to cut them.
The dolphins do no better a job than structuring their deals than any team in the league. In fact all one has to do is look at all the dead money we have this year.

---------- Post added at 12:07 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:07 PM ----------

we always talk about how great we structure deals yet in the end most of our deals turn out to be right on the average of the contract.
Ellerbee, wheeler, Wallace , Harrtline all these deals left significant dead money when it was to cut them , if we had to cut them.
The dolphins do no better a job than structuring their deals than any team in the league. In fact all one has to do is look at all the dead money we have this year.

How can anyone compare cap deals to players that did not play well? They are completely separate.

The good or bad in cap management is the ability to see the team's cap this year, next year, and the following year based on who you have and who must be kept.

We have done that very well to compensate for bad drafts while not having to pay a QB.

We have also done very well to set up paying a QB and having plenty left over for other players. You need to check out the numbers.

 

[dlockz]

How can anyone compare cap deals to players that did not play well? They are completely separate.

The good or bad in cap management is the ability to see the team's cap this year, next year, and the following year based on who you have and who must be kept.

We have done that very well to compensate for bad drafts while not having to pay a QB.

We have also done very well to set up paying a QB and having plenty left over for other players. You need to check out the numbers.

My numbers are fine, any team that cuts and gets rid of this many players would be in same shape. There is nothing special about how we manage our cap.

The only reason our cap is ok is because we haven't had to pay a QB and that will soon change

 

[Travis34]

Well dlockz if we signed players worth it it would be a different story. I think we do usually structure deals pretty well, but Ireland brought in too much average for too much cash.

One thing your not factoring in SB, some people will always be upset and need something to bitch about. Not singling any one person out but that's just how things tend to go here

 

[dlockz]

This team pays more for their center than their left tackle it's not a wonder why we haven't won in a while

 

[uk_dolfan]

i mind overpaying for pouncey less than i minded overpaying for an injury prone, 30 year old left tackle

 

[dolfin530]

Albert and Pouncey both have a $10 million avg. Everyone else on the line combined has a $6 million avg. That's why you need to draft well to get cheap talent to compliment the big money you spend.

 

[So Be]

Well dlockz if we signed players worth it it would be a different story. I think we do usually structure deals pretty well, but Ireland brought in too much average for too much cash.

One thing your not factoring in SB, some people will always be upset and need something to bitch about. Not singling any one person out but that's just how things tend to go here

Factored in every time I click on the site Travis. :)

I put up this thread to show that some are bitching about the money that may well not be anything to bitch about. IF Pouncey's deal is like Albert's I'm very happy. I also believe that the cap savings will be part of another deal to fill a need.

I would be good with moving up for a legit shot at a playmaker. IF we do, we will need the space to somewhat compensate for what we will have to give up.

I'm not a huge Pouncey fan but, do like having a bit of stability and cannot see a better option in the near future.

 

[So Be]

Albert and Pouncey both have a $10 million avg. Everyone else on the line combined has a $6 million avg. That's why you need to draft well to get cheap talent to compliment the big money you spend.

Agree, and we may actually be on the verge of having that young talent so we do not need to rely on FA so much each year. I'm liking the way things are shaping up.

 

[Travis34]

Great post, and great logic behind it. I was gonna give you some rep because even though I disagree with a lot of things you post at times *coughpffstatscough* I really appreciate what you bring to the board with stuff like that and this (contract details)