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Will Chambers catch a 2 game suspension?

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It was reported that Jared Allen recieved a 2 game suspension from the NFL for his DUI arrest. Hopefully Chambers will not recieve anything because it was his first arrest but the way the NFL is he could be hit with a suspension at anytime. We have been very lucky to date that Goddell hasnt called Porter into his office to suspend him, now with Chambers, hopefully Goddell will not be looking to make a statement with our team.

Any thoughts?
 
It was reported that Jared Allen recieved a 2 game suspension from the NFL for his DUI arrest. Hopefully Chambers will not recieve anything because it was his first arrest but the way the NFL is he could be hit with a suspension at anytime. We have been very lucky to date that Goddell hasnt called Porter into his office to suspend him, now with Chambers, hopefully Goddell will not be looking to make a statement with our team.

Any thoughts?
For speeding? From the info I gathered that's the only law he truly broke. Having an 'almost' DUI doesn't mean a thing..
 
That's what I was thinking. If he passed his breathalizer there's nothing to talk about, right?
 
That's what I was thinking. If he passed his breathalizer there's nothing to talk about, right?

wrong.

1800duilaws.com said:
North Carolina DWI law is primarily governed by North Carolina General Statute Sect. 20-138.1 and Sect. 20-16. Like many states, North Carolina DWI law includes both a traditional driving while impaired charge, and a per se charge. Typically, when someone is arrested for DWI or a related North Carolina drunk driving charge, they will confront both charges.

North Carolina DWI law, for purposes of the traditional driving while impaired charge, relates to "appreciable impairment" while driving. This count does not depend on a particular blood alcohol level, such as North Carolina’s per se law, which relates to a blood or breath alcohol level of .08% or higher. The prosecutor will attempt to prove the traditional North Carolina DWI charge by demonstrating appreciable impairment through the suspect’s driving pattern, their physical appearance, their performance on field sobriety tests, and the chemical test results.

North Carolina DWI law for the "per se" charge doesn’t care about how the individual was driving, how they appeared, how well or poorly they did on field sobriety tests, or anything else other than the chemical test results. For purposes of the North Carolina per se laws, the primary issue relates to blood or breath alcohol levels of .08% or higher. Current North Carolina law forbids the use of the roadside breath test for other than probable cause to arrest someone for drunk driving; this means that the roadside tests are not to be used to establish impairment or violation of the per se law. However, other states, such as California, are now allowing these roadside test results into evidence.

so he can still be charged under the first DWI law, but not the "per se" law.

As far as a suspension from the league goes though.....I don't think that he will because it is a first offense.
 
Thats the only thing Chambers can catch
 
For speeding? From the info I gathered that's the only law he truly broke. Having an 'almost' DUI doesn't mean a thing..

I wish I could share your optimism but Goddell will suspend players even before any courts determine outcomes. for example look at Pacman (although his charges were far worse) he was suspended because he was arrested prior to any court hearings. Goddell will suspend players if they are even arrested before he hears anything by a judge
 
I wish I could share your optimism but Goddell will suspend players even before any courts determine outcomes. for example look at Pacman (although his charges were far worse) he was suspended because he was arrested prior to any court hearings. Goddell will suspend players if they are even arrested before he hears anything by a judge

but he has only suspended multiple offenders thus far. :wink:
 
I wish I could share your optimism but Goddell will suspend players even before any courts determine outcomes. for example look at Pacman (although his charges were far worse) he was suspended because he was arrested prior to any court hearings. Goddell will suspend players if they are even arrested before he hears anything by a judge

I guess innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply in the NFL.
 
"orth Carolina DWI law, for purposes of the traditional driving while impaired charge, relates to "appreciable impairment" while driving. This count does not depend on a particular blood alcohol level, such as North Carolina’s per se law, which relates to a blood or breath alcohol level of .08% or higher. The prosecutor will attempt to prove the traditional North Carolina DWI charge by demonstrating appreciable impairment through the suspect’s driving pattern, their physical appearance, their performance on field sobriety tests, and the chemical test results."

The standard is absurd. It appear Chanbers has passed the chemical test. This leaves a bunch of subjective measures of his impairment. I sincerely hope that he did not take the field sobriety tests - stand on one leg and count backwards kind of stuff. These tests are designed so you fail and the state has some evidence against you. Given this standard of impairment most senior citizens should be charged daily with "appreciable impairment". If the State is not required to quantify the individuals impairment with standard chemical tests (quantitative analysis) the door is left open for abuse.
 
wrong.



so he can still be charged under the first DWI law, but not the "per se" law.

As far as a suspension from the league goes though.....I don't think that he will because it is a first offense.

Thanks for that information, NC has a two pronged way to convict for DWI, and the roadside test isn't the "REAL" test, but can be used to convict just based on visionary evidence.

I would doubt he gets suspended, he may more then likely be "diverted" into the NFL's substance abuse policy.
 
"orth Carolina DWI law, for purposes of the traditional driving while impaired charge, relates to "appreciable impairment" while driving. This count does not depend on a particular blood alcohol level, such as North Carolina’s per se law, which relates to a blood or breath alcohol level of .08% or higher. The prosecutor will attempt to prove the traditional North Carolina DWI charge by demonstrating appreciable impairment through the suspect’s driving pattern, their physical appearance, their performance on field sobriety tests, and the chemical test results."

The standard is absurd. It appear Chanbers has passed the chemical test. This leaves a bunch of subjective measures of his impairment. I sincerely hope that he did not take the field sobriety tests - stand on one leg and count backwards kind of stuff. These tests are designed so you fail and the state has some evidence against you. Given this standard of impairment most senior citizens should be charged daily with "appreciable impairment". If the State is not required to quantify the individuals impairment with standard chemical tests (quantitative analysis) the door is left open for abuse.

Exactly, NC is a DWI conviction machine.
 
"Goddell will suspend players if they are even arrested before he hears anything by a judge."

If Goodell suspends Chambers after he passed a breathalyser, Goodell should be forced out. What's next? Suspending players for appearing to take steroids.

BTW, I don't think he will suspend him.
 
WE best hope that chambers doent get a suspension ,because if if he does and we have two injuries in the wr corp the team will be cooked before the season actually begins.
there is a part of me that wants to say , i wished we had drafted the wr from lsu craig davis to go along with ginn . and another part of me is starting to think we might should have brought in randy moss. (oh well that part of me needs to go back to sleep.):sidelol:
 
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