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Will phins get any Compensatory Picks for 2015 Draft

I was going to pose this to Southbeach. I think he does this sort of thing every year.

Lose Odrick, Wilson, Hartline,

Gain Suh. game over. lol
 
finfan54 said:
I was going to pose this to Southbeach. I think he does this sort of thing every year.

Lose Odrick, Wilson, Hartline,

Gain Suh. game over. lol
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Wouldn't that be for 2016 comp picks? We didn't have any big FA loses last year either that I can think of, while signing Albert to big money. So no I don't think so.
 
finfan54 said:
I was going to pose this to Southbeach. I think he does this sort of thing every year.

Lose Odrick, Wilson, Hartline,

Gain Suh. game over. lol
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All of those guys lost don't count for this draft, they count for next years draft.

Also, Hartline was cut so he's not a free agent loss and doesn't count.

Last year we signed the biggest free agent in Brandon Albert and I don't even remember who we lost but I'd say it wasn't enough so I don't think we're getting any compensatory picks.
 
2015 compensation picks have already been awarded and Miami didn't receive one. The comp picks awarded based on talent lost vs talent gained the previous free agency period. Seeing that Miami added Suh this year, I doubt Miami would get a comp pick next year as well.
 
We did lose Soliai, Clemons, Fasano, and John Jerry, but in signing Albert, Delmas, Mitchell, and Moreno, they will all cancel out and we won't get any picks.
 
gregorygrant83 said:
2015 compensation picks have already been awarded and Miami didn't receive one. The comp picks awarded based on talent lost vs talent gained the previous free agency period. Seeing that Miami added Suh this year, I doubt Miami would get a comp pick next year as well.
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Correct, but specifically talent lost that wasn't cut and signed for big money somewhere else (nobody quite knows how it's calculated but they base it on money rather than a relative concept like "talent"). Let's say that in a year from now we let Olivier Vernon walk and he signs an $8 million per year contract somewhere. That's something we could get a compensatory pick for (depending on what else we do in FA).

Basically it's a reward for drafting well enough that the players you don't resign are coveted by other teams, and for not participating in free agency yourself. Is it any wonder we have such a system when the most powerful owners -- the Rooneys, the Maras, Biscotti -- aren't big players in free agency?
 
fininpsl said:
We did lose Soliai, Clemons, Fasano, and John Jerry, but in signing Albert, Delmas, Mitchell, and Moreno, they will all cancel out and we won't get any picks.
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too bad they don't factor in amount of time on IR into the formula.
 
TheWalrus said:
Correct, but specifically talent lost that wasn't cut and signed for big money somewhere else (nobody quite knows how it's calculated but they base it on money rather than a relative concept like "talent"). Let's say that in a year from now we let Olivier Vernon walk and he signs an $8 million per year contract somewhere. That's something we could get a compensatory pick for (depending on what else we do in FA).

Basically it's a reward for drafting well enough that the players you don't resign are coveted by other teams, and for not participating in free agency yourself. Is it any wonder we have such a system when the most powerful owners -- the Rooneys, the Maras, Biscotti -- aren't big players in free agency?
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But you make it sound as if non-participation in free agency is a bad thing. Let's be honest, free agency isn't an answer. You can't add a bunch of expensive free agents and expect to contend, because it just doesn't happen. Teams like the Steelers, Ravens, Pats and Packers use free agency to fill out their rosters, or use it to go after that one difference-maker like the Patriots did with Revis. Anything else is pure folly. It doesn't work, yet hope springs eternal and fans get amped up about free agent signings that will bring them no closer to the promised land. If we drafted better or were more prudent in signing free agents we'd get compensatory picks. Teams like the Pats are famous for signing guys that were cut elsewhere, players that are exempt from the formula that is used to award compensatory picks, then turning around and letting them walk after someone else pays them as a free agent, but to turn that into a system like the Patriots, Steelers and Ravens have, you've got to draft or sign guys, then coach them up and we can't do that.

It's not like the Steelers, Ravens, Pats etc aren't spending money, they're spending to the cap, but most of that money is spent retaining their home grown players, so when you say they're not big players in free agency that's only true in so far as they're not spending big money on other team's players. Wish we could do that.
 
Nope! But gauaranteed the Patriots get at least 5.
 
ANUFan said:
Nope! But gauaranteed the Patriots get at least 5.
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The number is capped at 4. Their 2016 projections are 3 6th-round picks and 1 third-round pick (for Revis.) These are only projections at this point however. There is nothing nefarious about this. They evaluate talent better and get the most out of their players before they either re-sign them or let them walk.
 
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