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After seeing what is happening, do you think Taylor and Thomas will retire ? It looks like at least 2 more losing seasons.
 
they will play at least 2 more seasons, but man if i was zt/jt i would threaten to retire unless we keep wes(i assume thats what you are referring to in your post the losing of a.thomas, clements, s.morris and hopefully not, but probably so welker).

i am so ticked right now that we may lose welker.
 
Yeah it sucks to lose him but you know he was slow as a WR...
 
Welker is nothing special. I fail to see anything but positive if losing him means getting a 2nd round pick in return. For a guy who was an undrafted free agent and who cost us zip to get in the first place.
 
Funny how the only guy that has consistently bailed us out year after year with great field position and clutch catches is thrown to the curb like yesterday's trash.

People act like there's another one on the scrap heap we can pick up, plug in and not miss a beat. Yet, in his tenure, Welker was one of the most effective players we had. Better than Chambers, Booker and McMichael. Yet, Chambers keeps getting free passes as if he's "just waiting to be great" and it's just a "matter of time".

The problem with Welker is we never had anything invested in him and no one appreciated him because of it.

Pray tell... he'll have a massive game against us as the Pats always use ex-Dolphins against us in such a way to make them the reason they win against us. Heath Evans anyone....

Mark my words.... Welker will have huge games against us.

He wasn't appreciated when here... and he'll be cursed as a Dolphin killer for years to come. There will be a lesson to be learned over this.
 
Welker is nothing special. I fail to see anything but positive if losing him means getting a 2nd round pick in return. For a guy who was an undrafted free agent and who cost us zip to get in the first place.

i think he is special. he is worth that much money for his return ability by itself, devin hester style FTW! think about it its like drafting devin hester in the 2nd round, but we know for a fact that he is a stud on returns at the nfl level before we draft him AND its like we draft him right below the patriots were gonna draft him. i hope that came out clearly.

i agree either way we made a great decision to sign wes off of the trash heap. i really hope we keep him!
 
Funny how the only guy that has consistently bailed us out year after year with great field position and clutch catches is thrown to the curb like yesterday's trash.

People act like there's another one on the scrap heap we can pick up, plug in and not miss a beat. Yet, in his tenure, Welker was one of the most effective players we had. Better than Chambers, Booker and McMichael. Yet, Chambers keeps getting free passes as if he's "just waiting to be great" and it's just a "matter of time".

The problem with Welker is we never had anything invested in him and no one appreciated him because of it.

Pray tell... he'll have a massive game against us as the Pats always use ex-Dolphins against us in such a way to make them the reason they win against us. Heath Evans anyone....

Mark my words.... Welker will have huge games against us.

He wasn't appreciated when here... and he'll be cursed as a Dolphin killer for years to come. There will be a lesson to be learned over this.

quoted for truth!

i said basically the same thing in the other welker threads.

LETTING WES GO WILL MEAN WE WILL LOSE AT LEAST 1 NEW ENGLAND GAME NEXT YEAR! it will happen because wes will singlehandedly keep a drive going with a 3rd down reception or take a punt return to the house. :(
 
How do you know we are going to have 2 more losing seasons? Who forecasts this stuff? Look at the Jets last year, I bet all their fans were saying the same thing some of our fans are saying now.

Secondly, what's with this love fest for Wes? One of you said his return skills alone are worth the money. What return skills are you talking about? He never produced a TD on a return and very rarely took a return over 20 yards. Sure he was consistant, but consistantly average. He also caught 1 TD last year and had fewer yards than Chambers and Booker on more catches. All this means is that Wes was open underneath for short yardage that was usually uncontested. Don't get me wrong, I love Wes, but some of you guys crying about us not throwing truckloads of money at him is ridiculous. Getting a 2nd round pick for him was huge. Maybe we can trade up to get Quinn now if that's what it's going to take. All in all, a 2nd rounder for Welker makes us a better football team.
 
quoted for truth!

i said basically the same thing in the other welker threads.

LETTING WES GO WILL MEAN WE WILL LOSE AT LEAST 1 NEW ENGLAND GAME NEXT YEAR! it will happen because wes will singlehandedly keep a drive going with a 3rd down reception or take a punt return to the house. :(

If we let Wes Welker beat us, then we deserve to lose. How many games did Wes win for the Fins this year? The guy scored 1 time. Give me a break bro.
 
If we let Wes Welker beat us, then we deserve to lose. How many games did Wes win for the Fins this year? The guy scored 1 time. Give me a break bro.

he only scored 1 time, but he did everything for us. field position on returns, key 3rd down catches, and everything else he did.

we would be 3-13 if we didnt have wes last year, if not worse. wes welker is the man.
 
How do you know we are going to have 2 more losing seasons? Who forecasts this stuff? Look at the Jets last year, I bet all their fans were saying the same thing some of our fans are saying now.

Secondly, what's with this love fest for Wes? One of you said his return skills alone are worth the money. What return skills are you talking about? He never produced a TD on a return and very rarely took a return over 20 yards. Sure he was consistant, but consistantly average. He also caught 1 TD last year and had fewer yards than Chambers and Booker on more catches. All this means is that Wes was open underneath for short yardage that was usually uncontested. Don't get me wrong, I love Wes, but some of you guys crying about us not throwing truckloads of money at him is ridiculous. Getting a 2nd round pick for him was huge. Maybe we can trade up to get Quinn now if that's what it's going to take. All in all, a 2nd rounder for Welker makes us a better football team.

he has produced a return td in 04 and has had a ton of long punt returns, including the mnf game in 04 against the patriots.

quinn? the next rick mirer? no thanks, id rather keep the heart and soul of our offense and special teams.

btw the welker contract offer sheet is only 10.5 mil guaranteed! we are ******ed if we dont keep welker for 10.5 millioin guaranteed! god this is like a bad dream, i keep wanting to wake up and not hear this new england welker rubbish.
 
After seeing what is happening, do you think Taylor and Thomas will retire ? It looks like at least 2 more losing seasons.

Young and hungry is far better than old and lazy. Your pessimism is unfounded young fellar.

Mueller and Cam are going to bring in zealous winners. With our free agent dollars spent on defense and most of the draft going offense we will contend next year............Remember what our defense did to the Pats last year.
There is no reason to be so negative.
 
How do you know we are going to have 2 more losing seasons? Who forecasts this stuff? Look at the Jets last year, I bet all their fans were saying the same thing some of our fans are saying now.

Secondly, what's with this love fest for Wes? One of you said his return skills alone are worth the money. What return skills are you talking about? He never produced a TD on a return and very rarely took a return over 20 yards. Sure he was consistant, but consistantly average. He also caught 1 TD last year and had fewer yards than Chambers and Booker on more catches. All this means is that Wes was open underneath for short yardage that was usually uncontested. Don't get me wrong, I love Wes, but some of you guys crying about us not throwing truckloads of money at him is ridiculous. Getting a 2nd round pick for him was huge. Maybe we can trade up to get Quinn now if that's what it's going to take. All in all, a 2nd rounder for Welker makes us a better football team.

Amen. People are just blinded to the truth because of how much of a scrappy overachiever Welker has been. He is the type of player that is always going to be a fan favorite, but gets overrated because of it.

There is not one thing he does that is decidedly above average. His returns are ok, but definitely nothing irreplaceable. He is absolutely not a gamebreaker. As a receiver, he is adequate as a 3rd option. Not anything great, but adequate. Is a guy who can get open when no one is really covering him closely on 3rd downs to catch underneath passes really worth more than 30 million dollars?
 
he only scored 1 time, but he did everything for us. field position on returns, key 3rd down catches, and everything else he did.

we would be 3-13 if we didnt have wes last year, if not worse. wes welker is the man.


I think you're confusing Wes Welker with Jason Taylor. You can say we'd be 3-13 without him, but probably not any one else. (Maybe Zach.)

Which 3 games did Wes win for us last year? I'm just curious.

Before you tell me, here are Wes' stats in our wins.

Tennessee- 5 catches 59 yards 0 TDs
Chicago- 2 catches 14 yards 1 TD
Kansas City- 3 catches 46 yards 0 TDs
Minnesota- 4 catches 59 yards 0 TDs
Detroit- 5 catches 42 yards 0 TDs
New England- 1 catch -1 yard 0 TDs

Hmmm... tough pickings.
 
Amen. People are just blinded to the truth because of how much of a scrappy overachiever Welker has been. He is the type of player that is always going to be a fan favorite, but gets overrated because of it.

There is not one thing he does that is decidedly above average. His returns are ok, but definitely nothing irreplaceable. He is absolutely not a gamebreaker. As a receiver, he is adequate as a 3rd option. Not anything great, but adequate. Is a guy who can get open when no one is really covering him closely on 3rd downs to catch underneath passes really worth more than 30 million dollars?

Exactly, and I understand why people fall in love with him and I can't blame those fans (I love Wes as well.) But it's best for the team that we got this deal.
 
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