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Will we have a Deebo-like formation?

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Can you imagine Hill (or even Waddle) lining up in the backfield? That would be nuts.

My only concern is that Deebo is 215lbs+ while Hill and Waddle are sub-200lbs. That type of beating over a season could greatly impact their injury-potential... But then again, upon looking at it further, Deebo "only" had 59 carries last year (for 8 TDs!)

What do you guys think? Do you guys think it will be a staple of this offense? If so, who runs it? Hill? Waddle? A combination of the two?
 
I don’t think it’s necessary. It would be good for some misdirection, but I don’t think we need Waddle or Hill carrying the ball like Deebo did last season.
 
mandal24 said:
Can you imagine Hill (or even Waddle) lining up in the backfield? That would be nuts.

My only concern is that Deebo is 215lbs+ while Hill and Waddle are sub-200lbs. That type of beating over a season could greatly impact their injury-potential... But then again, upon looking at it further, Deebo "only" had 59 carries last year (for 8 TDs!)

What do you guys think? Do you guys think it will be a staple of this offense? If so, who runs it? Hill? Waddle? A combination of the two?
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A staple? No, but I certainly think we will see it on occasion with Jet Sweeps, motion to tip the defense's hand, etc.

I don't want either of those guys doing much between the Tackles.
 
Mach2 said:
A staple? No, but I certainly think we will see it on occasion with Jet Sweeps, motion to tip the defense's hand, etc.

I don't want either of those guys doing much between the Tackles.
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yup.

it will be in the playbook, but it won't be a staple.
 
mandal24 said:
Can you imagine Hill (or even Waddle) lining up in the backfield? That would be nuts.

My only concern is that Deebo is 215lbs+ while Hill and Waddle are sub-200lbs. That type of beating over a season could greatly impact their injury-potential... But then again, upon looking at it further, Deebo "only" had 59 carries last year (for 8 TDs!)

What do you guys think? Do you guys think it will be a staple of this offense? If so, who runs it? Hill? Waddle? A combination of the two?
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I think the receivers and RB's will get a surprisingly even share of the passes and also running the ball.
 
Just speaking in terms of strategy, I've always felt like if your WR can run the ball effectively and have speed, there is no reason not to use them in the outside run game. The more you stretch a defense in every which direction the better.
 
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Hill is built like a tank and actually was a RB. I wouldn't have any issues with him lining up in that backfield. I also suspect that they specifically promised Hill he would get "Deebo-like" touches when they were trying to sign him.

I don't know that I would call it a "staple", but I expect he'll have 30+ carries this year and will be back there as a distraction as well.

Reality is that Hill impacts defenses just by his presence and alignment. You line him up in the backfield and defenses are trying to figure out how to cover him. He could release on either side and the CBs are stuck in the middle of the field working through traffic to get to an edge.

You could put what looks like a pass formation out there causing the defense to reasonably respond with a nickle or dime D, then motion Hill into the backfield and run with numbers into a pass defense front.

There's a hundred ways to do it and there's nobody I trust more to figure it out than McD. I'm excited to see how the offense and Hill's usage in it evolves. It's not going to be all at once. It will be an evolution. I imagine that we'll see some of the more imaginative stuff late in the season and in the playoffs.
 
rafael said:
Hill is built like a tank and actually was a RB. I wouldn't have any issues with him lining up in that backfield. I also suspect that they specifically promised Hill he would get "Deebo-like" touches when they were trying to sign him.

I don't know that I would call it a "staple", but I expect he'll have 30+ carries this year and will be back there as a distraction as well.

Reality is that Hill impacts defenses just by his presence and alignment. You line him up in the backfield and defenses are trying to figure out how to cover him. He could release on either side and the CBs are stuck in the middle of the field working through traffic to get to an edge.

You could put what looks like a pass formation out there causing the defense to reasonably respond with a nickle or dime D, then motion Hill into the backfield and run with numbers into a pass defense front.

There's a hundred ways to do it and there's nobody I trust more to figure it out than McD. I'm excited to see how the offense and Hill's usage in it evolves. It's not going to be all at once. It will be an evolution. I imagine that we'll see some of the more imaginative stuff late in the season and in the playoffs.
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What do you say to injuries?

Personally, I feel like you want the ball in the playmaker hands as much as possible. You can't be scared to put it in his hands in any way necessary to help the team win.

Asking because I see a lot of injury concerns in this thread and wanted your general opinion.
 
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