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Will we play 3-4? Will we have a nose tackle?

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Our current defensive lineman

DT 62 Anthony Bryant 6-3 337
DT 60 Steve Fifita 6-0 312
DT 91 Vonnie Holiday 6-5 288
DT 95 Chase Page 6-4 295
DT 96 Paul Soliai 6-4 344
DT 90 Rodrique Wright 6-5 300

DE 74 Quentin Moses 6-5 260
DE 93 Rob Ninkovich 6-2 252
DE 75 Derreck Robinson 6-4 289
DE 98 Matt Roth 6-4 272
DE 99 Jason Taylor 6-6 255

Defensive Lineman out in free agency
Jared Allen 6-6 270
Ebenzer Ekuban 6-4 270
Albert Haynesworth 6-6 320
Tommy Kelly 6-6 300
Sam Rayburn 6-3 303
Mike Rucker 6-5 275
Justin Smith 6-4 275
Paul Spicer 6-4 295
Randy Starks 6-3 312
Corey Williams 6-4 313
Renaldo Wynn 6-3 296

Nose Tackles in the NFL
Anthony Adams (chicago) 6-0 300
Jay Alford (new york giants) 6-1 304
Remi Ayodele (dallas) 6-2 300
Adam Carricker (st louis) 6-6 308
Kendrick Clancy (new orleans) 6-1 305
Barry Coefield (new york giants) 6-4 306
Ola Dagunduro (dallas) 6-2 308
Fred Evans (minnesota) 6-4 305
Jason Ferguson (dallas) 6-3 312
Kelly Gregg (baltimore) 6-0 310
Casey Hampton (pittsburgh) 6-1 325
Chris Hoke (pittsburgh) 6-2 305
Grady Jackson (jacksonville) 6-2 362
Ethan Kelley (cleveland) 6-2 338
Jay Ratliff (dallas) 6-4 298
Dewayne Roberts (new york jets) 6-1 310
Shaun Rogers (detroit) 6-4 340
Isaac Sopoaga (san francisco) 6-2 325
Hollis Thomas (new orleans) 6-0 306
Keith Traylor (free agent) 6-2 340
Darwin Walker (dallas) 6-3 294
Ted Washington (cleveland) 6-5 375
Gabe Watson (arizona) 6-3 332
Vince WIlfork (new england) 6-2 325
Pat WIlliams (minnesota) 6-3 317

Our defensive coaching staff plays a 3-4 scheme. We need a legit NT. Shaun Rogers is the only guy that makes any sense here, but how do we get him?
 
Parcels had a very good 4-3 his first two years in Dallas. Right now the current personnel favors the 4-3.

Additionally the best player in the draft Glen Dorsey is best as a 4-3 DT not a 3-4 NT.
 
The team doesnt have the personnel to run ANY defense at a high level. There's no reason why the team should stick with a 4-3 based on it fitting bad personnel better. The reason why Parcells stuck with a 4-3 in Dallas short term is because he inherited a good defense there. That's not the case here, he's inheriting a bad defense that was already running a hybrid.

The defensive coaching staff he hired from Dallas is mostly from the post 3-4 shift there, and guys who were retained to run Wade Phillip's 3-4, and whom he wanted to continue to have doing so.

Go look at George Edwards and Jim Reid's jobs on the coaching staff. Respectively, Inside and Outside linebackers. That's not a distinction that is noteworthy in a 4-3 defense.
 
I actually prefer the 4-3 and our personnel is more fitted to it with one major exception and that is Joey Porter who has always played in a 3-4 in the nfl and would probably be a liability in a full time 4-3. Porter gives me one more reason to hate the prior regime because the guaranteed money they gave him basically sealed Thomas's fate.
 
Disgustipate said:
Go look at George Edwards and Jim Reid's jobs on the coaching staff. Respectively, Inside and Outside linebackers. That's not a distinction that is noteworthy in a 4-3 defense.
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This is a really GOOD point. If I was sure of what we were doing and/or how we planned on doing it, I would not have made the post. I'm trying to collect ideas like this to sum up what players we go after to piece together a functioning 3-4 defense.

However, one other thing that kind of irked me. Granted, we're not a team thats built to win anytime soon. But New England has done such a good job with aging hof linebackers in the 3-4 defense. Why couldnt we try to work something out with Zach? I'm all about cleaning house, and I'm honestly not even that upset about moving on without him. But, its like the one connection where age and some vet leadership might be helpful.

If we dont make a move for Shaun Rogers. Who plays nose tackle for the 2008-2009 miami dolphins 3-4 defense?
 
JepheryRoss said:
Exactly, thats why I'm scratching my head everytime I read about miami playing a 3-4, we just dont really have the personnel and theres a lot of defensive talent out that would go to waste
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This I agree with.

I think you have more personnel to play a 4-3 and I just heard on Sirius that this is more of a 4-3 draft as well
 
Idk but I hope we have a nose tackle! If we dont , than we will be last in run defense again because of holes left...literally.
 
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