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long, cog, pouncey, jerry, murtha. we start them and we don't have to draft an ol in the first round, we could pick a playmaker off that bat and draft zebria sanders from fsu in the 2nd, i for one are in the minority of keeping moore as a backup, he is good for another 5 years this staff could coach him, and it looks like it might work, look what daboll did with him, daboll, i don't want to draft a qb in the 2nd if he is not going to start, it would be a waste of a pick if you gonna mold a qb do it the way gb does it draft one in the 6 or 7 round, and go from there. thoughts
 
It all depends on what the new coach wants to do with so called zone-blocking scheme
 
why would you want to start half a line who couldnt beat out the old decrepid trash we had?

not only do we need starters, we need quality backups. the o-line is finally garbage, we actually do need to draft or sign f/a's to get this line up to speed. 80% of our offensive woes were due to horrid o-line play.

NO! i dont like that line. pouncy is a pro bowler in the making and long, who knows. hopfully this injury thing is a bad streak. if not, prepare for another year like the last with qb's running for their lives on almost every play, NO MATTER WHO THE QB IS!!!

i dont have to explain columbo. carey is 3 years past riding the pine. cog is good, but streaky and getting older. not a pretty picture, expecially the fact the reserves couldnt beat any of those guys out.

i think CARL NICKS can be had and the finz absolute f/a focus should be on him first with grubs being the plan b.

then get one of the good tackles in the draft and another guard mid way through.

cortland finigan is another f/a must to pair with vontae. that would be a scrappy pair there and would allow us a draft spot for one of the o-line players we need. this years cop of college o-linemen is really, really good and we need to partake.
 
Switch Jerry and Cog, and that line would be good.
 
There are plenty of solutions to be added after the first round and in FA. I'm not nearly as concerned about the O-line as QB and a distant 2nd in pass rush (which is sad because 2 of those 3 were focuses of this FO).
 
NRA said:
why would you want to start half a line who couldnt beat out the old decrepid trash we had?

not only do we need starters, we need quality backups. the o-line is finally garbage, we actually do need to draft or sign f/a's to get this line up to speed. 80% of our offensive woes were due to horrid o-line play.

NO! i dont like that line. pouncy is a pro bowler in the making and long, who knows. hopfully this injury thing is a bad streak. if not, prepare for another year like the last with qb's running for their lives on almost every play, NO MATTER WHO THE QB IS!!!

i dont have to explain columbo. carey is 3 years past riding the pine. cog is good, but streaky and getting older. not a pretty picture, expecially the fact the reserves couldnt beat any of those guys out.

i think CARL NICKS can be had and the finz absolute f/a focus should be on him first with grubs being the plan b.

then get one of the good tackles in the draft and another guard mid way through.

cortland finigan is another f/a must to pair with vontae. that would be a scrappy pair there and would allow us a draft spot for one of the o-line players we need. this years cop of college o-linemen is really, really good and we need to partake.
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I agree in part and disagree in part. We have a lot of young talent: they are i/m/o in the process of "arriving"! BUT...

(1) COLUMBO must go, and CAREY should go back to RT, only as a BACK-UP RT/RG.

(2) We MUST go after a sonlid, veteran G. It should've happened LAST season, but apparently, stupid ROSS got cheap. THIS time, I'd go after NICKS/GRUBBS bigtime, and whoever signs first wins. They'll also start at LT.

(3) We move INCOGNITO to RG, where he belongs. He "pulls" pretty good, but it's his "2nd best": he's a mean-spirited mauler, and belongs on the right side, where POUNCEY can "pull" on sweeps left, and he can chop the knees off of anyone coming up the middle, because he traps well, and there's no "clipping" i/s th e Ts. Beyond that he pass-protects and road-grades right.

(4) We let the winner of MURTHA/JERRY start at RT. The "light" seemed to go on for JERRY when he played LT after JAKE went down; the year before, MURTHA did decent work at LT AND RT (e.g., against DETROIT--SUH & friends were invisible). The loser backs up BOTH Ts, CAREY can back-up RT and RG if (big if) he doesn't come into camp looking like a beached Whale...if he does, "buh-bye", fat boy. GARNER backs up both Gs and C. And WHEN those late cuts come, and there's an "aging veteran w/some gas left in his tank, who still wants to play football", oblige him. Sign him up at a reasonable price, then do a "TEBOW" and say "Thank you, God"! Simple, don't you think?
 
luduporcu said:
I agree in part and disagree in part. We have a lot of young talent: they are i/m/o in the process of "arriving"! BUT...

(1) COLUMBO must go, and CAREY should go back to RT, only as a BACK-UP RT.

(2) We MUST go after a sonlid, veteran G. It should've happened LAST season, but apparently, stupid ROSS got cheap. THIS time, I'd go aftrer NICKS/GRUBBS bigtime, and whoever signs first wins. They also start at LT.

(3) We move INCOGNITO to RG, where he belongs. He "pulls" pretty good, but it's his "2nd best": he's a mean-spirited mauler, and belongs on the right side, where POUNCEY can "pull" on sweeps left, and he can chop the knees off of anyone coming up the middle, because he traps well, and there's no "clipping i/s the Ts.
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The only thing I read him getting cheap about was Ireland's efforts to bring in Orton (Thank you Ross!). Ireland ****ed up.
 
O-Line needs major upgradeS!! That line will give us another .500ish year ... ugh!!

Unless we spend the farm on a QB, the O-Line will see significant upgrades ... no new first-time coach is going to stake his new job on it!!

The O-Line got knocked off the ball regularly, knocked Henne out (couple years in a row, among others) ... & frankly, I can't believe Moore survived to the end of the season ... it was a miracle.

Thinking point from last year's offseason ...
Football 101: Our O-Line Sucked
Fandom 101: Our O-Line was Top 5 & full of wunderkind players ... and that was BEFORE the Draft!! Expectations skyrocketed after the Draft.

How'd that work out??
 
Gonzo said:
The only thing I read him getting cheap about was Ireland's efforts to bring in Orton (Thank you Ross!). Ireland ****ed up.
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Look what we did the rest of the way in F/A last season, GONZO. Everyone in football KNEW that MIAMI's interior OL was a shambles. By my count, there were at least 5 F/A solid Gs. ( I still remember 4: GALLERY, COLLEDGE, and BOTH of ATLANTA's starters). As the late cuts were made, there were a couple more: "aging veterans" and/or "cap" casualties! Now, then, HOW MANY of them got a serious offer from MIAMI? Yeah...NONE!!! And AFTER ALL the good Gs were gone, what does MIAMI do? Rummage thru DALLAS's garbage can (AGAIN), and come up with...COLUMBO. So, they move a serviceable RT (CAREY) who's 10x better than COLUMBO, to RG, where he hadn't played since "The U", and start COLUMBO at RT. Talk about DESPERATION!!! The results? Predictable. By my totally unofficial count, COLUMBO was responsible for c.6 drives/game stalling, in each of the following games: CLEVELAND; DENVER, DALLAS, GIANTS, and N.E.II. Seeing as how we lost ALL of those games by a FG or less, do you think that MIAMI might have scored at least a lousy FG more? I DO!!!

With ANY decent RT, MIAMI would've had 5 more wins. Can you say "11-5"? I can! And can you say "Playoffs"? Incidentally, MOORE deserved--repeat DESERVED--to be 10-2. At GB, he could've been. But NOT HERE! Not with an Albatross like COLUMBO hanging around his neck, and the continuing stench of "PARCELLSBALL" still present.

MOORE had to deal w/a lot, don't you think? I wonder how FLYNN would've done here last seaon?

I/m/o, right after stupid ROSS fired SPARANO, he SHOULD have fired HIMSELF! What a clown! And a stupid one at that! WINNING fills seats and sells overpriced greasy hot dogs and warm beer, not some "celebrity" wiggling her a** and jiggling her "hooters".
 
another sad attempt by fans who dont know what matters in football.

gotta have a big name reciever. this isnt how champions build champions. thats how fantasy leagues build fantasy league teams.

julio jones wasnt worth it.

If we get Manninng or Flynn, which is more likely than selling farm for RG3, then you have to protect your investment and get your running game to be top notch.

The best way to do that IMO is to draft Decastro, cus you simply will have a probowler and there seems to be some depth at tackle and I think we could find a good one in round 3 or 4 or beyond. decastro though would solve alot of problems even though he is a guard.
 
luduporcu said:
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WINNING fills seats and sells overpriced greasy hot dogs and warm beer, not some "celebrity" wiggling her a** and jiggling her "hooters".
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yeah but winning and azz wigglin and boob jigglin is a daily double!
 
I will let the new coach decide, but if we are going to be a more aggressive offense, we definately need a new RT that can turn his hips and actually not suck.
 
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