Just saw that he and the Texans Center are free agents. Read an article about Miami being more of a zone blocking offense and from watching a few Texans games the past season, they excel at it. Also read where Briesiel played with a broken leg in a game, which means he's got to be tough. I think signing him and drafting FSU tackle Zebrie Sanders in the second round would solidify the right side. Opinions?
Would Texans Guard Mike Brisiel be a good fit for Miami?
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NO WAY, he doesn't fit our scheme and probably wants a pay day due to being undrafted and not getting much money in his career.
Zebrie Sanders is a good football player but I believe he has a late 2nd or 3rd round grade. He is raw athletic talent (project player) and even though I'm a FSU fan, I don't honestly see him being "plugged" in day 1 as a starting NFL rookie.
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4096/player?r=1
Free agent RG Mike Brisiel wants to re-sign with the Texans this offseason.
A former undrafted free agent out of Colorado State, Brisiel is a zone-blocking guard and system fit in Houston. He probably wouldn't attract any interest from teams that run other schemes. "Everybody saw how close we were, and we know what it’s gonna take to get over that hump," said Brisiel, 29. "It’s gonna be a fun thing to be a part of. I hope I’ll get a chance." Feb 6 - 6:43 PM
Can you please provide a link that says we are a zone blocking scheme team???
Zebrie Sanders is a good football player but I believe he has a late 2nd or 3rd round grade. He is raw athletic talent (project player) and even though I'm a FSU fan, I don't honestly see him being "plugged" in day 1 as a starting NFL rookie.
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4096/player?r=1
Free agent RG Mike Brisiel wants to re-sign with the Texans this offseason.
A former undrafted free agent out of Colorado State, Brisiel is a zone-blocking guard and system fit in Houston. He probably wouldn't attract any interest from teams that run other schemes. "Everybody saw how close we were, and we know what it’s gonna take to get over that hump," said Brisiel, 29. "It’s gonna be a fun thing to be a part of. I hope I’ll get a chance." Feb 6 - 6:43 PM
Can you please provide a link that says we are a zone blocking scheme team???
Nevermind, it was actually a post on here about Green Bay using it. http://www.finheaven.com/forums/showthread.php?314142-GB-zone-blocking-scheme-and-DT. Not sure if Philbin will bring it To Miami.
ckparrothead
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I don't think it's even possible to be more wrong than that statement...
Have you watched the Packers or Texas A&M Aggies play?
ckparrothead
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Mike Brisiel was on the Texans back when Mike Sherman was the Offensive Coordinator there. He's a possibility in Miami if the Texans are not aggressive in trying to have him back. Given the scheme label that will be put on him, I doubt he's in line for a "big pay day". However, most Houston Texans are extremely high on their own team right now given the way they finished the year and the prospect of getting Matt Schaub back and doing even better. Both Brisiel and Chris Myers are part of the most dominant rushing attack in the league, a rushing attack that would make Alex Gibbs proud. This means they will in all likelihood give their own team every opportunity to win them back.
However, like I said, if Houston falters or is not aggressive, if I were Miami I would be aggressive in snapping up either one of those two players. I could see Washington putting together a big package for Myers.
However, like I said, if Houston falters or is not aggressive, if I were Miami I would be aggressive in snapping up either one of those two players. I could see Washington putting together a big package for Myers.
Zone blocking is better used when your trying to trick defensive lineman by pulling lineman in different directions. Its almost like your trying to stunt block compared to defensive linemen trying to stunt and switch positions while rushing. There is NO benefit in zone blocking when passing UNLESS your trying to set up a screen pass or draw play because there is a "run/screen pass" option built into the play.
Side note - the only other time zone pass protections is "decent" is if your offensive lineman are a bunch of BEAST and maybe 1 of them need double team help. For example your starting LT goes down to injury and you put your back up scrubb, so why not zone block assign to help his scrubb arss out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_blocking
Zone blocking is a technique in American football that is a simple and effective scheme for creating lanes for running plays.
In a zone blocking scheme, fleet-footedness and athletic ability trump size as desirable qualities in offensive linemen. Coordination and technique matter more than muscle in implementing a successful scheme because defensive linemen are often double-teamed at the point of attack. Creating movement on the defensive line is more important than opening a specific hole in the defense.
P.S. NO WHERE has PHILBIN said we are going to be a ZONE BLOCKING DOWN HILL RUNNING TEAM. From what I read he wants a SPREAD FAST TEMPO SPREAD OFFENSE. Outside of screens and draw plays, a spread offense will be less effective with zone blocking. We currently have Lineman that average 326lbs, NO WAY those FAT boys can ZONE BLOCK!!!
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Ok... really trying to understand where you get the 'trying to trick' aspect from Zone. It's a movement scheme where the RB reads the colour.
This is in no way a 'trick' scheme. Also... pulling OL is not fundamental to the zone scheme... teams do it yes by adding it to the foundation.
As for 'pulling in different directions' I might have misunderstood here, but if you're saying that one OL pulls one way and another OL pulls another way, then this would be incorrect. It for one would get a lot of backfield players broken!
Last year our scheme was heavy on pulling, mostly with the Power.
Furthermore... when you say that 'no way those fat boys can zone block'... I would say... Jake Long, 325lbs... yes he could. Nate Garner, 325lbs, yes. Colombo at 330lbs. No. Carey at 340lbs, No Jerry at 328 - possibly? Incognito at 324 - Yes. Now, what I would say is that they are not the prototypical zone blocking OL, but could do a pretty decent job in my opinion. Especially Long/Incognito/Pouncey/Garner/Jerry or Murtha [hmm.... decent OL me thinks right there, saves having to spend a top pick on another OL]. They are athletes... and can move. but also bring some beef, so we could... end up having a hybrid OL, as you transition to the preferred type of OL a ala Denver under Gibbs and Houston now.
I still maintain we have enough 'decent' talent on the OL in house to get through next year without having to dip into FA or Draft... use that for playmakers...
Pat
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I don't understand
Not what I meant at all, actually what your describing is a trap block which isn't used as much anymore
That's what I meant
Like I said we are built as a man scheme, if we zone block is predominately for screens and draws. You never provided a link that said we are a zone blocking scheme.
We are built for power and creating holes, zone blocking in run plays are built for movement and deception.
I'm trying to follow this thread but I feel like I've been "PULLED" in all kinds of directions.....lol
Ozzy rules!!
Ozzy rules!!
ckparrothead
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You're a better man than I. I lacked the stamina to dive into that post.
But you're absolutely right on all of it. I would add that when I watched John Jerry at Ole Miss I saw him as more of a zone/movement blocker than anything else, FWIW. Surprising good feet, big frame. Not good with leverage yet which is why I didn't see him doing awesome in a power scheme. Sort of a moving wall type player. Incognito obviously isn't ideal. I think Garner would be a nice try in that scheme.
ckparrothead
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Possible, but to bring him in as a Center they'll have to convince Jeff Ireland and that will be a hard sell. Ireland didn't draft Mike Pouncey at #15 overall to move him all around the offensive line stunting his growth. He wants him as the Dolphins' Center for the next 12 years...another Olin Kreutz.
On the other hand, when Mike Sherman drafted Scott Wells (Sherman drafted him as Sherman was both HC and GM at the time), he had him as a Guard, and played him as a Guard. So there's a possibility they could bring in Wells as a Guard, but that would probably be a hard sell to Wells himself.
This post is confusing, you seem to know things that only a GM or Agent would know.
Boy that game is hard to watch :tubes: