Not to get off topic but Slimm what do you see Denarius Moore's stock? #1 in YPC in NCAA.
I've liked Torrey Smith for a while and he's impressed me at every turn.
Wow strong words! Strong endorsement! I've never seen him play, that is Torrey Smith not Rod Smith play saw him play and from what i think i remember he wasn't a burner. Your comparison of Size to Speed is probably accurate as a fan you can't help but want someone like D.Jackson were his speed is not question on the television and i'm sure not on the field....I want every advantage on the football field including the advantage of a secondary being psychologically beat before the snap is even off why? Because the receiver looks like he warms up against lighting! From what i saw of Torrey Smith he might have top end speed like Ginn...but not starting or intermediate speed...someone like D.Jackson looks fast lined up and as a DB your pointing at the safety to get back another 10 yards on top of the 20!
That's the problem I've always seen with Baldwin... I don't care how fast he is to be honest.
It doesn't really matter unless the DB falls down and lets Baldwin get behind him on a 9 route.
Baldwin just doesn't have any suddeness to him... no explosiveness. Not a threat to get any yards after catch...
You have to create seperation early in your route... you do that with suddeness, explosiveness, sinking your hips in order to avoid rounding off your routes, and knowing how to beat the jam at the line of scrimmage.
Smith is better equipped at all of this than Baldwin, although neither of them could get off Brandon Harris' jam... he shut them both down for the most part.
I think he has an excellent chance of being over drafted.
It would probably just be easier for you to say "I don't like him."
Smith's hands bother me a lot. When I was playing club basketball, between my 8th grade and 9th grade year, I got to fill in on the club's varsity team, and a couple of the kids didn't think I belonged, so they'd rifle every pass at me - regardless of distance - and I ended up catching a couple with my body. Kind of reminds me how Smith looks catching the football.
I think he's fine. I think he's the type of player, though, that gets over drafted. If he were to fall to us in the 3rd or late 2nd - were we to trade back - I'd be fine with him. I see him going in the very early 2nd or late 1st. That understood, I'm not interested in him at that price. Hence, the outstanding factor of note: I think he has a great shot of being over drafted.
you caught the basketball with your body??? that's some odd stuff...
Dude, I was an 8th/9th grade over-achiever type catching a rocket baseball pass - literally, an overhand baseball pass - from Nick Booker (6'5 - went to Davidson) from like 10 ft away.