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WTF Happened from Year 2 to Year 3? How does team go from near playoffs to bottom 5 team in the league.

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Please someone tell me this. I'm Casual Dolphins follower. I liked strategy Grier and Flores were building. Tearing it down and building it back up. Like 90s Cowboys did and most recently Browns.

Year 1 = 5-11 (Good Season, expectations of team was to be worst in the league to tank for Tua.)
Year 2 = DOUBLED THE WINS! 10-6 (Defense was elite)
Year 3 = 1-5.........What happened?!
 
We have no coaches who can develop talent and we spent huge money on a #2 corner instead of building an offensive line or consistent pass rush.

We played a lot of bad teams last year AND got lucky bounces and opportune plays at the right time on defense and special teams.
 
They overachieved last year for starters. A lot of the success was from the turnovers. However, this defense clearly regressed. One of the biggest reasons is because they did not address the major LB problem. Baker is absolutely garbage and couldn't cover a broom. They don't have the same veterans on this team either. The young guys have not lived up to their potential like they were hoping which is either on them or the coaching, or both.

The offense sucked last year and it still sucks this year. Gailey was an improvement, but that's not saying much. This is what happens when you choose to ignore the O-line every year. And when they do draft them, they are soft as butter guys. Also, they keep relying on injury prone players who are NEVER going to stay healthy. Mix that in with a young QB being coached by a GARBAGE offensive staff with 3 OC's, and you have a recipe for a disaster.


This team is awful from top to bottom because of the management and coaching. They've failed to address major needs, and the players are poorly coached with a horrible scheme. So basically everything is awful.
 
Elite Smarts said:
Please someone tell me this. I'm Casual Dolphins follower. I liked strategy Grier and Flores were building. Tearing it down and building it back up. Like 90s Cowboys did and most recently Browns.

Year 1 = 5-11 (Good Season, expectations of team was to be worst in the league to tank for Tua.)
Year 2 = DOUBLED THE WINS! 10-6 (Defense was elite)
Year 3 = 1-5.........What happened?!
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Playing a Last place schedule helps in year 2.
 
Last's year's schedule...

Miami has lost to two winless teams this year, which shows exactly how easy it is for bad teams to be beaten with just a certain amount of showing up. 2/3 of the wins last year was versus teams flailing due to circumstances at that point, mixed in with just a select few that were solid wins and some that were just plain luck.

Y'all just were too excited over what Flores did with house money in 2019 which was as much attributable to a veteran QB as anything.
 
Elite Smarts said:
Please someone tell me this. I'm Casual Dolphins follower. I liked strategy Grier and Flores were building. Tearing it down and building it back up. Like 90s Cowboys did and most recently Browns.

Year 1 = 5-11 (Good Season, expectations of team was to be worst in the league to tank for Tua.)
Year 2 = DOUBLED THE WINS! 10-6 (Defense was elite)
Year 3 = 1-5.........What happened?!
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We’ll, he changed the personnel around on the defense a fair amount for no reason. And he didn’t replace them with players that had equal leadership and production. So you have a defense that finishes in the top 5 and you do what? You release your prize free agent, team captain and leader of defense Van Noi And replace him with no one, and you release Bobby McCain who was responsible for getting your secondary in the right places and did a good job last year. Not sure if they changed the scheme much.
 
Kyndig said:
We’ll, he changed the personnel around on the defense a fair amount for no reason. And he didn’t replace them with players that had equal leadership and production. So you have a defense that finishes in the top 5 and you do what? You release your prize free agent, team captain and leader of defense Van Noi And replace him with no one, and you release Bobby McCain who was responsible for getting your secondary in the right places and did a good job last year. Not sure if they changed the scheme much.
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Scheme is the same and that's part of the problem. Now there is an additional years worth of film on it. Instead of evolving the defense to do different things with their talent it seems like we ask players to fit into a pre made mold.
 
BillsFanInPeace said:
Playing a Last place schedule helps in year 2.
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That's not as straightforward as it seems. Part of the reason their schedule was easy was because they beat 10 of the teams, thus lowering their opponents record. It's an implicit value, you can't separate strength of schedule after the season with our record.
 
GhostArmOfMarino said:
Scheme is the same and that's part of the problem. Now there is an additional years worth of film on it. Instead of evolving the defense to do different things with their talent it seems like we ask players to fit into a pre made mold.
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Not what Ive seen.

Last year we ran much more press man coverage, this year its all zone and soft cushions all over the field.
 
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