WTF?? Jets Shaun Ellis busted for possession...still able to play??

[TooDrkPark]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3746304


Ricky got suspended for testing positive, but this guy is busted for possession and speeding, but no action by the team or league???? Messed up man!!

 

[flsportsfan83]

Ricky was suspended after multiple positive drug test. I wouldnt be sutrprised if Godell does suspend Ellis though.

 

[nyjunc]

He deserves to be suspended but it's not likely to happent his year and Ricky wa suspended over and over again. Ricky was caught while in the drug program. This is a 1st offense for Ellis.

 

[enduro]

He deserves to be suspended but it's not likely to happent his year and Ricky wa suspended over and over again. Ricky was caught while in the drug program. This is a 1st offense for Ellis.

the nfl does not suspend until the guys go to court and it depends on the outcome usually. Off course mike vick is a different story. Same story with matt jones. they will be suspended in due time.

 

[phinfan13/34]

He deserves to be suspended but it's not likely to happent his year and Ricky wa suspended over and over again. Ricky was caught while in the drug program. This is a 1st offense for Ellis.

I think its BS, not just for Ellis, but also Matt jones for the jags. They caught him preparing some cocaine! Its a bit of a joke, the leagues trying to protect their image but apparently not enough

 

[Kdawg954]

Yea if guilty, he will get suspended, but u gotta let all the facts come out. Yes, the Matt Jones story all over . . . and Jones was with Cocaine. Ellis may not see a suspension this year, but if he is guilty, he will.

 

[GoonBoss]

I think its BS, not just for Ellis, but also Matt jones for the jags. They caught him preparing some cocaine! Its a bit of a joke, the leagues trying to protect their image but apparently not enough

Jones is presently undergoing the appeals process set in place by the NFLPA and, the owners. It's a matter of law, not preferential treatment. Mat Jones has every right to appeal his suspension under the CBA.

 

[Kdawg954]

I think its BS, not just for Ellis, but also Matt jones for the jags. They caught him preparing some cocaine! Its a bit of a joke, the leagues trying to protect their image but apparently not enough

Honestly the NFL has had a horrible year overall.

They have rescinded 2 fines. . . How do u look at tape, view the action as a fine . . . and then take the fine back? I mean how stupid do u have to be to realize the hit/action was never fine worthy to begin with. The Justin Tuck hit comes to mind, perfectly legal, but they fined him and took it back. Why even give Tuck negative press like that, he was playing football . . .Goodell has to realize that this is a contact sport.

They blew the call with San Diego and Denver, and that more than likely costs San Diego a playoff spot (obviously their horrible play doesn't merrit a playoff spot, but still the refs blew the game and they would only be one game out of first place . . . and they still play Denver again.)

The Crowder/Light incident was a complete joke . . . I don't care what Channing said, trash talk is part of football . . . I played football in high school and defensive players by FARR talk the most trash in football, especially DE's, DT's and LB's. Crowder didn't do anything . . . even if he shoved . . . shoving happens every game . . . Light grabbed Channings hair and punched him in back of the head and Channing ran out of there instead of punching back. They both get tossed and they both get the same fine . . . what an example.

But to me, the fact that certain endzone celebrations get fined the same has Matt Light punching someone in the back of the head is just insane. Ronnie did the cupid shuffle. . . got fined 10 grand (hell 2 linemen did it with him, to fined 10 grand a piece also, so 30 grand total). . . Matt Light punch you several times in back of the head . . . 15 grand and no suspension. Wow Roger, way to go, moron. Endzone celebrations is part of the NFL, and should be allowed . . . its fun. I'm sure kids in youth football saw the Light/Crowder incident and saw that baby fine and probably think they can get away with it in their league and just get tossed from the game but play again the following week. Just a horrible year from the league and the officials.

 

[emeraldfin]

Is there a mandatory suspension for recreational drugs?

Or are all drugs cases treated individually?

 

[GoonBoss]

Is there a mandatory suspension for recreational drugs?

Or are all drugs cases treated individually?

There is a drug policy in place. I'm not sure of the mechanics of it, but, I think that adresses actually being busted with them in your system. In Jones' case, if he was just found with the drug, and, not proven to have ingested it it would come under the classification of "Conduct detrimental to the Leauge." and it would be Godell's sole descision.

 

[GoonBoss]

Honestly the NFL has had a horrible year overall.

They have rescinded 2 fines. . . How do u look at tape, view the action as a fine . . . and then take the fine back? I mean how stupid do u have to be to realize the hit/action was never fine worthy to begin with. The Justin Tuck hit comes to mind, perfectly legal, but they fined him and took it back. Why even give Tuck negative press like that, he was playing football . . .Goodell has to realize that this is a contact sport.

They blew the call with San Diego and Denver, and that more than likely costs San Diego a playoff spot (obviously their horrible play doesn't merrit a playoff spot, but still the refs blew the game and they would only be one game out of first place . . . and they still play Denver again.)

The Crowder/Light incident was a complete joke . . . I don't care what Channing said, trash talk is part of football . . . I played football in high school and defensive players by FARR talk the most trash in football, especially DE's, DT's and LB's. Crowder didn't do anything . . . even if he shoved . . . shoving happens every game . . . Light grabbed Channings hair and punched him in back of the head and Channing ran out of there instead of punching back. They both get tossed and they both get the same fine . . . what an example.

But to me, the fact that certain endzone celebrations get fined the same has Matt Light punching someone in the back of the head is just insane. Ronnie did the cupid shuffle. . . got fined 10 grand (hell 2 linemen did it with him, to fined 10 grand a piece also, so 30 grand total). . . Matt Light punch you several times in back of the head . . . 15 grand and no suspension. Wow Roger, way to go, moron. Endzone celebrations is part of the NFL, and should be allowed . . . its fun. I'm sure kids in youth football saw the Light/Crowder incident and saw that baby fine and probably think they can get away with it in their league and just get tossed from the game but play again the following week. Just a horrible year from the league and the officials.

Falls under "Planned Celebration". They knew they were going to be fined and did it anyway. Zero sympathy here. If I go punch a cop in the face, I'm probably going to go to jail. Knowing that, if I do it anyway, how is it not my fault if I'm arrested and sent to jail when I do it?

 

[Kdawg954]

Falls under "Planned Celebration". They knew they were going to be fined and did it anyway. Zero sympathy here. If I go punch a cop in the face, I'm probably going to go to jail. Knowing that, if I do it anyway, how is it not my fault if I'm arrested and sent to jail when I do it?

This is true, but that was a 30 thousand dollar celebration . . . and Matt Light punching Channing in the back of the head got 15 thousand and no suspension.

Yes Ronnie and the boys knew they were getting fined . . . but honestly the league pretty much is saying it is as bad for the league as 2 guys fighting and one punching the other in back of the head several times. I think the endzone celebration rule needs to be changed all together, just my opinion. Yea the props thing . . . that has its limits, definitely planned, but man u just got in for a tuff TD and u and a few guys wanna celebrate, I just don't find whats wrong with it. No Fun League is right lol.

 

[GoonBoss]

This is true, but that was a 30 thousand dollar celebration . . . and Matt Light punching Channing in the back of the head got 15 thousand and no suspension.

Yes Ronnie and the boys knew they were getting fined . . . but honestly the league pretty much is saying it is as bad for the league as 2 guys fighting and one punching the other in back of the head several times. I think the endzone celebration rule needs to be changed all together, just my opinion. Yea the props thing . . . that has its limits, definitely planned, but man u just got in for a tuff TD and u and a few guys wanna celebrate, I just don't find whats wrong with it. No Fun League is right lol.

For the record , I've got no issues with reasonable TD celebrations. The problem is, though, it can get out of hand very quickly. I don't have any real issue with the NFL's fineing process. The players and the owners agreed on it. They made the rules, so, they have to live with them. If the players don't like the rules they should make that known to thier team reps, who in turn, tell the head of the NFLPA, who in turn instructs the bargaining comittie to negotiate the process.

What I would like to see is a defined "fine schedule" which would include the base fines for X offense, with variences for degrees of infraction and, number of occurances.

 

[RoninFin4]

If they haven't taken action with Matt Jones, then I think Shaun Ellis isn't going to have much happen to him other than he'll be entered into the substance abuse policy. Another 15 strikes and he might get a suspension.

 

[GoonBoss]

If they haven't taken action with Matt Jones, then I think Shaun Ellis isn't going to have much happen to him other than he'll be entered into the substance abuse policy. Another 15 strikes and he might get a suspension.

THey have taken action with Matt Jones. I think it was a suspension, which is under appeal at the moment, as is Jone's right under the CBA. This has no bearing on criminal proceedings.

ETA: Three game suspension
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3654599
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=jac

Jacksonville Jaguars wide receiver Matt Jones was suspended three games for a violation of the league's substance-abuse policy.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=jachttp://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=jac