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Xanders’ interview lasted two days

J. David Wannyheimer said:
I'm skeptical of any Carl Peterson guy. Including this Ray Kuharich or whatever his name is. His name might as well be Zac Taylor.

As long as the job goes to the best candidate, I'm fine with whoever it happens to be. I'm just skeptical that Peterson isn't pimping his guys even when there are better people available.
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Bill Kuharich has a tremendous track record and would be an awesome addition. He still should be a GM in this league. I would not mind Ray Farmer with Kuharich within the org.
 
ChambersWI said:
well JLC and Florio use him as their source for Fins (while none of the guys are great since Darlington and Volin left, Mando is the one that flings the most crap) so at least 2 people do.

I don't understand the hatred for metrics. As long as you aren't using them as your only source of information they are very useful. Just like you can't strictly use the combine (Raiders).

And I think Farmer is a fine candidate based on what I know. Most qualified? Debatable, but that doesn't mean he's bad either. Sure he's a Carl Peterson guy, but I'm not going to hold that against him like I would a Bill Parcells guy (where all of them all try to act like Parcells and end up looking like ass clowns)
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JLC and Florio aren't "NFL people", unless "NFL people" is a meaningless catch all term for anyone connected to the league in any fashion that's designed to try and make it sound like it's coming from other scouts and evaluators.

There's nothing wrong with metrics. In fact, there's everything right with metrics. It's not a replacement for traditional scouting -- like the way our buddy shouwrong uses it -- but it's very helpful in cutting through the bull**** at times. There's a reason more and more teams are starting to use it just as the Moneyball movement has taken over baseball.
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
I'm skeptical of any Carl Peterson guy. Including this Ray Kuharich or whatever his name is. His name might as well be Zac Taylor.

As long as the job goes to the best candidate, I'm fine with whoever it happens to be. I'm just skeptical that Peterson isn't pimping his guys even when there are better people available.
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Zac Taylor and Jim Turner were clearly unqualified for NFL jobs and got them because Mike Sherman is their father in law and first cousin, respectively.

Ray Farmer isn't Carl Peterson's nephew. Neither is Lake Dawson. In other words, it's not nepotism. They're just his guys. He knows them and respects them. Seems perfectly natural to me that he would fight for them, then. A recommendation means more if you know the guy than if you're looking off a resume -- which is what all of us are doing -- and saying, "well, it sounds good."

My issue with Peterson's recommendations are more based around the fact that he's been out of the NFL game for a while. His sources and contacts are old.
 
I like Xanders' experience. I do not like the recent knowledge that he is into metrics. Experience is lacking in many key parts to the organization.

However, Ray Farmer came out as the front runner and ever since people have torn at him as the "lead dog". I think he is qualified and would give total support. An addition of Bill Kuharich would clinch for me.

I am not sure if my first pick of Marc Ross is even in the mix.
 
Not sure how valuable "metrics" are when applied to talent evaluation. Football also doesn't lend itself to the equivalent of a plus-minus ratio as does basketball and hockey. I still think the hiring decision should come down to which candidate has the best ability and philosophy for evaluating talent that fits the head coach's scheme.

I could care less if the GM is a tsar in terms of manipulating the draft trade chart.
 
We've also got to remember that three separate people were fired to make for Xanders in Denver. Not just Ted Sudquist, who was fired as GM after the 2007 season to make room for a few new people in the Broncos front office, but also Jim Goodman and his son Jeff, who had been the Vice President of Football Operations and Assistant GM (sharing the title with Xanders), respectively, before Xanders was given control over the front office (well, McDaniels had final say, but you get the idea).

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_11693597

Not to mention we know Big O has been going full retard about Xanders for days. Lots of axes to grind out there. None of them particular "useful" in terms of offering perspective on what kind of GM Xanders would be.
 
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Bah Xanders' was never gift wrapped anything in his career.

Unlike Jeff "ball-boy" Ireland. The "chosen one" haha.

Who knows about any of these candidates really? But Xanders' seems like the type of guy that can spot a loser if he sees one. I hope he's offered the job. You can be an a-hole as long as you fill the team with talent and have flair. But an a-hole with no talent or personality? That's Jeff Ireland...
 
I'm sure it's been discussed, but was his firing in Denver purely based on an internal power struggle with Elway? If not, does his firing raise any red flags?
 
Pay no attention to this post. For some reason when I click on all of the page links it always puts me back on the first page, but it's just for this thread. I'm posting to see if that changes it.

Nope, anybody else have this problem.

I am able to get to this post only because it went through my profile.

PM me if anyone else ever has had this problem and knows how to fix it.
 
Here's a short, but interesting article about Brian Xanders and how he got his start in the business:

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/s...ge-dolphins-gm-candidate-brian-xanders/ncqkd/

“I was changing light bulbs, scrubbing toilets and cleaning racquetball courts,” Xanders said in a 2008 AP interview, “and then they made me general manager of the Falcons sports complex three months later.”

Not bad but Xanders still was out of the loop with the franchise itself. So he learned about databases as an intern in the Falcons internet department and eventually got his foot in the door with the team by helping the Atlanta coaching staff at night, categorizing and editing game videotape.
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Definitely not a silver spoon.
 
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