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Xs Os ?: RE: Open spaces in the middle

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OK, so watching the New England game, Cam had some success dumping the ball over the middle, to the point it got frustrating to watch.
My question, and I just hope for some clarity:
I assume the Dolphins defense was in some sort of zone.
And the WR was just finding the soft spot?
How long does it take to adjust to what NE is doing in that case, or is it a case if we shut that down, it opens something else up? And they would rather give them the over the middle because that is the least damaging?
And what is the adjustment to best take that away, and if we do that adjustment, what does it open up?(I suppose it depends on the adjustment what it will open up)
WIth as much trouble as Cam has with his accuracy these days, and the lack of quality of NE wr's, why not just play man the whole game?
Thank you.
 
Bopkin02 said:
OK, so watching the New England game, Cam had some success dumping the ball over the middle, to the point it got frustrating to watch.
My question, and I just hope for some clarity:
I assume the Dolphins defense was in some sort of zone.
And the WR was just finding the soft spot?
How long does it take to adjust to what NE is doing in that case, or is it a case if we shut that down, it opens something else up? And they would rather give them the over the middle because that is the least damaging?
And what is the adjustment to best take that away, and if we do that adjustment, what does it open up?(I suppose it depends on the adjustment what it will open up)
WIth as much trouble as Cam has with his accuracy these days, and the lack of quality of NE wr's, why not just play man the whole game?
Thank you.
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Total guess on my part, but I would think they want more zone against running QBs so your DBs more often have their eyes in the backfield as opposed to turning and running blind with WRs.
 
Bopkin02 said:
OK, so watching the New England game, Cam had some success dumping the ball over the middle, to the point it got frustrating to watch.
My question, and I just hope for some clarity:
I assume the Dolphins defense was in some sort of zone.
And the WR was just finding the soft spot?
How long does it take to adjust to what NE is doing in that case, or is it a case if we shut that down, it opens something else up? And they would rather give them the over the middle because that is the least damaging?
And what is the adjustment to best take that away, and if we do that adjustment, what does it open up?(I suppose it depends on the adjustment what it will open up)
WIth as much trouble as Cam has with his accuracy these days, and the lack of quality of NE wr's, why not just play man the whole game?
Thank you.
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Someone may have the stat, but from eyeballs, most Ds give up quite a few completions over the middle. with quick receivers and rubs, not surprising. The weakness in defending crossers is no one close to make a tackle (YAC) or missed tackles.
 
The answer to the short cross is what we saw in the second quarter, LB's Corners and Safety's coming up and blasting the guy catching the ball keeping the gains minimal and painful.
 
We are going to be willing to give that up in order to protect the deeper areas of the field.

Those over the middle passes are very dangerous ones for an offense to overuse... they lead to balls being batted at the line, which many times results in interceptions-- we saw that with Kansas City. And not only are they dangerous, they don't really gain you a lot of yards...

So... we are willing to give up that play.
 
Jimi said:
Hopefully it was just like the Arizona game for Byron, a blip in an otherwise great year. Needham has been big for us all year, he’s years ahead of Igbo right now.
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They do not play the same position. One is a slot corner. The other is being developed to play wide.
 
Mach2 said:
They do not play the same position. One is a slot corner. The other is being developed to play wide.
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since when do rebuilding franchises spend 1st round picks on depth? we had our pick of the top 4 RBs and we busted on a project at a position we didnt even need. they flat out blew the pick.
 
dnespins said:
since when do rebuilding franchises spend 1st round picks on depth? we had our pick of the top 4 RBs and we busted on a project at a position we didnt even need. they flat out blew the pick.
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I disagree, but don't care to argue about it right now.

In any case, that has absolutely nothing to do with Needham, which was, specifically, to what I was responding.
 
Mach2 said:
I disagree, but don't care to argue about it right now.

In any case, that has absolutely nothing to do with Needham, which was, specifically, to what I was responding.
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yeah we can just agree to disagree that it's not a matter of boundry vs slot but rather noah sucks more than needham no matter where they play.
 
dnespins said:
since when do rebuilding franchises spend 1st round picks on depth? we had our pick of the top 4 RBs and we busted on a project at a position we didnt even need. they flat out blew the pick.
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Smart franchises don't take running backs in the first round.
 
dnespins said:
yeah we can just agree to disagree that it's not a matter of boundry vs slot but rather noah sucks more than needham no matter where they play.
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so other than "that" you agree Mister Grier is hands down GM of the year, right?
 
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