You cannot be surprised at the poor image of the Phins in the media anymore

[JCane]

Ummm, wrong. Thats the thing, when the dolphins play good be it one game or a span of games, the credit given to us by the national media never matches up to the credit given to teams like the jets, pats, steelers, etc.

Stop it. This is complete nonsense. If you're good, you get credit for being good. If you're great, you get credit for that as well. You notice the Dolphins because you're a Dolphins fan when in fact, media today piles on a few teams more than they do the Dolphins.

The Dolphins suck. Therefore, we don't get a lot of positive talk. But at the same time, we don't get a lot of talk period. How much did the media CRUSH the Lions the way they did? What about the Raiders year after year after year after year. The media has NEVER crushed the Dolphins in that sense.

So like you say, if the Dolphins aren't the only team treated this way, then it only follows directly that there is NO BIAS.

 

[BlueFin]

You have to earn respect..this organization hasn't won a playoff game in 10 years...has made the playoffs once since 2001...haven't been to the AFC Champinship game in nearly 20 years...haven't been to the Superbowl in 26 years...haven't won a Superbowl since 1974.

The first half of this franchises life..it was a model of consistency and winning...the last half it has lost that lofty status.

 

[earthwake]

Realize that in madden, John Jerry has a higher ranking than Sean Smith, thats some BULL****

Yeah Jerry... WOW what a bust. Pathetic that Carey is rated 90.

Folks, this isn't woe is me. The point I'm making is that this franchise doesn't get any positive rep in the media. Not just talking warm and fuzzy. Highlights when the Phins win, good talk about the D, etc. The lack of a franchise player DOES hurt. There are no Fitzgeralds, AP's, or Bradys on this team. I thought Marshall would be that guy but he's clearly not.

Then, there are sensationalist stories like the PFT article calling the Phins in "disarray" over the Gators crap. Not a decision that everyone likes, but that is not grounds for disarray. For now, the waters are calm. The D gets no love even though it was ranked #6 and added better players.

As for mocking the Madden highlights, that's just crap. We're talking about a product that many NFL fans see, something that has become a staple of the fanbase.

 

[SoCal Finatic]

Stop it. This is complete nonsense. If you're good, you get credit for being good. If you're great, you get credit for that as well. You notice the Dolphins because you're a Dolphins fan when in fact, media today piles on a few teams more than they do the Dolphins.

The Dolphins suck. Therefore, we don't get a lot of positive talk. But at the same time, we don't get a lot of talk period. How much did the media CRUSH the Lions the way they did? What about the Raiders year after year after year after year. The media has NEVER crushed the Dolphins in that sense.

So like you say, if the Dolphins aren't the only team treated this way, then it only follows directly that there is NO BIAS.

While it's true that some successful teams get more attention, you can't deny the media (especially tv)coverage of bigger market teams, good or bad. I don't think it's necessarily a bias against Miami, but toward those teams. Networks rely on ratings, and the number one rule in show business is to know your audience. Bottom line is more people in New York, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts are watching ESPN.

 

[fatkirstyalley]

What drives me nuts is the predictions part, they predict us to have a bad year but the reason they think this is because of a 2010 issue. Lazy journalism. It has to be hard to know all the ins and outs of all 32 teams, but you shouldnt have "experts" make prediction when they dont have all the facts.

Plus alot of this is just piggy backing of what they heard someoen else say. I can count at least 3 occasions where I have ...verbatim...the same concerns on 2 diff networks. We havent had the greatest offseason PR wise, but make an informed call.

 

[earthwake]

What drives me nuts is the predictions part, they predict us to have a bad year but the reason they think this is because of a 2010 issue. Lazy journalism. It has to be hard to know all the ins and outs of all 32 teams, but you shouldnt have "experts" make prediction when they dont have all the facts.

Plus alot of this is just piggy backing of what they heard someoen else say. I can count at least 3 occasions where I have ...verbatim...the same concerns on 2 diff networks. We havent had the greatest offseason PR wise, but make an informed call.

It's amazing that the Phins don't get credit for a great road record last year, but everyone harps on the home record. As if the home record will stay the same, but the road record will get worse. Or that the offensive coordinator changed. Or the LB'ers. Lazy journalism indeed.

 

[nyjunc]

All Miami teams have a bad image in the media. It doesn't help that a lot of the media is generated in the North East, and most analysts on these media outlets are and always have been Miami haters. It is what it is. The Phins, and Miami teams in general haven't exactly been the spitting image of what to look up to. The Heat get reamed for not winning the NBA Finals on a daily basis. According to ESPN the Heat were supposed to fizzle out sometime during the playoffs and not even make the Finals. They proved them wrong and still get crap for it. They love to hate Miami. I mean just look at their opinions on UM's debacle.

Phin highlights have been non-existent for years now, unless it's for getting destroyed by the Pats. I can't tell you how many times last year on Sports Center's sidebar thing a Dolphin game highlights were up there for a second and then it got booted for some other bs. So be it. We have to prove the media wrong and produce wins.

Oh it's the Northeast media, you sound like whiny west coasters whining about East Coast bias. The bottom line is the winning teams get the positive press, the Heat ha dunusualt circumstances a year ago w/ the decision and the celebration nonsense but once they win titles(and they will) you will see the media fawn all over them. The Dolphins haven't been a good team for most of the past decade, when they start winning again, when they start going to the playoffs annually again you will see positive press. heck you didn't even need that in '06 when SI picked you to go to the SB despite not playing in a playoff game in 5 years at that point. Please stop whining about the media, just go out and win games- that is all that matters.

 

[Fin Thirteen]

Stop it. This is complete nonsense. If you're good, you get credit for being good. If you're great, you get credit for that as well. You notice the Dolphins because you're a Dolphins fan when in fact, media today piles on a few teams more than they do the Dolphins.

The Dolphins suck. Therefore, we don't get a lot of positive talk. But at the same time, we don't get a lot of talk period. How much did the media CRUSH the Lions the way they did? What about the Raiders year after year after year after year. The media has NEVER crushed the Dolphins in that sense.

So like you say, if the Dolphins aren't the only team treated this way, then it only follows directly that there is NO BIAS.

JCane is right.

I'm a big fan of rugby and over here in Ireland support a team that has had terrible press over the past decade. How would you like for your team to be nationally known (IN THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA) as "The Ladyboys"???!!!

We fans were always bitching and moaning (and some still are!) about how we could never do anything right. Then in 2008 we won the national league. Then in 2009, we became European Champions, beating our biggest local rivals and media darlings in the SF. Then in 2011, we became European champions again, coming back from a huge halftime deficit in one of the great finals ever.

The media love us. It's fawning "we never doubted you" crap. We can do no wrong. Our old rivals are "over the hill", "out of touch", a "team in decline".

It's all crap. Ignore it, win or lose. Or at least, take it with a pinch of salt because many of you are far more knowledgeable - not only about your own team but about the others too.

It's froth, it's something to read on the can, it's tomorrow's wrapping paper.

Just become relevant and it all disappears, to be replaced by equally poor journalism of the gushing variety.

 

[phinzfan21]

Who cares about the media anyway?

And it's great to see another thread turning into, I act tougher and say it stronger, so my opinion is fact. =)

 

[LANGER72]

Stop it. This is complete nonsense. If you're good, you get credit for being good. If you're great, you get credit for that as well. You notice the Dolphins because you're a Dolphins fan when in fact, media today piles on a few teams more than they do the Dolphins.

The Dolphins suck. Therefore, we don't get a lot of positive talk. But at the same time, we don't get a lot of talk period. How much did the media CRUSH the Lions the way they did? What about the Raiders year after year after year after year. The media has NEVER crushed the Dolphins in that sense.

So like you say, if the Dolphins aren't the only team treated this way, then it only follows directly that there is NO BIAS.

I think you are wrong.
There are certain media pundits(former players) that have an axe to grind with the Fins. They pile on, only presenting a diminished view of our team, and completely ignoring the improvements. We have been bad or mediocre for years, and are continueing to be the punchline for the late night and prime time comedians. I could care less about it, but it does exist. Our record for the last 3 years is 25-24...not exactly a doormat.
On the other hand, there are still a couple of media guys who are in our corner and talk about our improvement and potential.
When the Pats, Jets, and Bills do well, the northeast media treat them as darlings.
The only solution is excellent management, superior coaching and winning. We are failing in all those areas except for Nolan. He is our only bright spot as I see it. I am sure some of the assistants are quality as well.

 

[mialuv13]

Oh it's the Northeast media, you sound like whiny west coasters whining about East Coast bias. The bottom line is the winning teams get the positive press, the Heat ha dunusualt circumstances a year ago w/ the decision and the celebration nonsense but once they win titles(and they will) you will see the media fawn all over them. The Dolphins haven't been a good team for most of the past decade, when they start winning again, when they start going to the playoffs annually again you will see positive press. heck you didn't even need that in '06 when SI picked you to go to the SB despite not playing in a playoff game in 5 years at that point. Please stop whining about the media, just go out and win games- that is all that matters.

I'm just being a biased fan for my team. I want the press to reflect my bias. As does every fan. There's no sugarcoating that the Phins haven't put themselves in good light.But, when you watch ESPN and hear the analysts there seems to be leaning towards bias for North East teams. It's natural because of the analysts they choose. The good part of the analysts played or went to college in the NE and the West. ESPN Boston, ESPN LA, ESPN Chicago. If you base a Sports Media outlet out of Miami, the North East would think that it's decently biased because their might be a higher number of analysts from Miami teams, and colleges.

The Jets (and OMG the Pats get their dicks sucked every night) get touted for everything they do. Do they deserve that? Sure, they go out and make moves that deserve some recognition, and they have a coach that puts them into the media any chance he gets. But Rex says that they will make the superbowl every year and that they expect it. They go far, but they don't make it, it gets brushed off quickly. Why? Because they're the early 90's Bills! Ha jk, it's because they are a good enough team to make the playoffs and win in the playoffs on tough road games. Herm Edwards is an analyst for ESPN. He loves the Jets, he loves everything they do.(I am exaggerating btw he rags on them when they deserve it).

That's what we have to hear constantly. Fans outside of the North East have to constantly hear about the Pats, and the Jets, and the Giants, and even the Bills because of Boomer (not always for good things). Hell we have to hear about the Phillies and the Yanks, and even the Mets completely sucking again (not as bad as the Marlins). It's just frustrating as Miami fans to have to watch a bunch of analysts who used to be part of those teams constantly blowing their former team up. It's also frustrating that when we do pick up a guy like Burnette to replace Crowder, all we hear about is how Crowder bashed the Phins organization, not about how they upgraded a needed position on a stacked D. The Jets and Pats pick up a few question marks, and they're the best thing since sliced bread.

But I digress, their are plenty of times that when analysts say to look out for the Dolphins. There are plenty of times when they do tout the Phins. We haven't done **** in the past, well forever to deserve high recognition. But as I've said in both the posts I've had on this topic, to prove the analysts wrong we have to win. Period. Hell we're known as the greatest comeback story ever with the 11-5 '08 Phins.

From a realistic standpoint we don't deserve credit for what we've done recently, and the things we have done are looked over because even though they are significant to us fans, they are not significant to other fans. But, from my standpoint, SHOW MORE DOLPHINS ON EVERY CHANNEL!!:hump:

 

[nyjunc]

You guys kind of hear what you want to hear, I see the Jets getting criticized all the time. Whether it is bashing Rex for his predicitions or questioning Burress or talking about the lack of pass rusher,... It's all perception from all of us. It's like when we watch games and each side feels the announcers are biased for the other side.

 

[mialuv13]

That's the plain truth man. I only hear the good things about the Dolphins, and I counter every bash against the Dolphins with some ridiculous rebuttal. It's what I like to do as a fan, and I'm sure most fans do the same thing. Fans hear the local press, and actually have an idea what is going on outside of the giant media corporations. So the perception that is given out about the teams by the ESPNS, and SI's is highly based on production. Plus, who the **** outside of, for instance, Seattle wants to hear about the Seahawks? They don't generate media like the North Eastern teams do. What I mean by that is that North Eastern teams make the headlines because they put themselves out there in that manner. It is no coincidence that they talk about North Eastern teams so damn much, every single sport has a sick team in the North East. Football: Pats, Jets, Eagles, Giants, Pittsburg (kind of NE). Baseball: Phillies, Yanks, Red Sox. Hockey: Devils, Flyers, Bruins. Basketball: uke:Celtics. Hell even the MLS has great teams in the NE. I ****ING HATE IT! SoFla has to step it's game up!

 

[fish920]

Stop it. This is complete nonsense. If you're good, you get credit for being good. If you're great, you get credit for that as well. You notice the Dolphins because you're a Dolphins fan when in fact, media today piles on a few teams more than they do the Dolphins.

The Dolphins suck. Therefore, we don't get a lot of positive talk. But at the same time, we don't get a lot of talk period. How much did the media CRUSH the Lions the way they did? What about the Raiders year after year after year after year. The media has NEVER crushed the Dolphins in that sense.

So like you say, if the Dolphins aren't the only team treated this way, then it only follows directly that there is NO BIAS.

I understand this. My point was that the media shuns the losing teams, and praises the winners.

Its very obvious. The dolphins are losers, for now

 

[sleek]

The media bets on the favorite for hope of being right which leads to gaining credibility. The problem is the favorite is created for and by people who are lazy, lack insight, and personality.