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It amazes me how little credit these guys get at other message boards. I typically find a forum for each team we are playing, just to shoot the ****. This week I've found you guys!

I must say, the guys from the Jets, Raiders, Broncos and Philly boards really downplayed the improvements we made in the offseason (namely Surtain and Knight). I'm thinking maybe we'll see a different opinion of those guys here, just because you know what they bring to the table. Guess we'll see.

Anyways, just thought I'd do a position by position rundown for ya, to give ya a little insight heading into this week's game. Good luck to you guys this week and from here on out.

Quarterback-

I must say he really looked a lot more comfortable in the pocket this week with Willie Roaf protecting his blind side. Still has yet to torch anyone this year, but he's making good decisions and executing the plays. We're getting a lot closer to being completely healthy on offense, and I think it's only a matter of time before this offense really starts clicking again. With all the first teamers practicing together, it's only a matter of time IMO...

Offensive Line-

Going to go here next. I really don't think these guys get as much credit as they deserve, even though they get tons of credit. The offense looked much different this week with Willie Roaf back in there. How many other lines in the league have 3 Pro Bowlers (Roaf, Waters, and Shields)? And our C, Casey Weigmann is also a former pro-bowler and one of the best pulling Centers in the game. We struggled a little bit in Roaf's absence at the tackle position, but now that Roaf is back protecting the blind side, we moved Jordan Black back to RT. His transition back to the right side even makes that position better.

Running Backs-

I think we all know what Priest and LJ are capable of, especially with Tony Richardson in the bacfield blocking for them. I'm sure you guys are hoping RW and R Brown eventually give the Fins the same type of production at the position as the Chiefs are getting out of their combo. This Ronnie Brown fantasy owner is as well :D

Wide Receiver-

Kennison has played well, even though I don't think he caught a pass yesterday. Samie Parker looked better yesterday than he has all season, but then he left late in the game with a knee injury. Not sure what his status will be next week, but I'd be more confident with Boerigter starting opposite Kennison that Parker anyways. I think Parker is more geared for a 3rd wideout.

Tight End-

Gonzo went out in patterns more this week, now that Roaf is back. Before he was being held back in pass protection. This opens the offense up even more, and I think it's only a matter of time now before he has his breakout game of the season.

Jason Dunn should be getting closer to 100%, and he really is one of the better blocking TEs in the game. He's basically another OT added to our terrific O-Line.

D-Line:

Jared Allen finally stepped up and had a big game last week. What we've been lacking from day 1 has been a pass rush. Obviously, it doesn't matter how good your coverage is if the opposing QB has all day to throw the ball. We disrupted Brunell last week, and disrupted their offense. We will need to do the same next week. Our run D is much better than it has been in the last few years. Now we really just need to get our pass D up to speed.

Linebackers-

Most improved area of the defense from a year ago. Drafted Derrick Johnson in the first round of the draft, went out and got Kendrell Bell, and Kawika Mitchell has taken over the MLB position and is becoming the leader of the defense (aside from maybe Knight).

The last few years, we lacked speed at this position, and we were constantly beat to the outside. Our LBs are now stepping up and making plays, and are really making a difference on the defensive side of the ball.

Corner-

I'm starting to believe Dick Vermeil is an idiot. That, or just damn hard headed. Dexter McCleon sucks, and was consistently torched last season and the year before. Eric Warfield (our best corner from a year ago) should have been back last week from his 4 game suspension. Instead, the team didn't activate him and went with Surtain and McCleon. McCleon left the game early with a groin injury, and I hope this gets the team to activate Warfield. IMO, we will be much better once Warfield is starting opposite Surtain. McCleon and Benny Sapp will make nice Nickel and Dime corners.

Safety-

IMO, we have a very solid trio of safeties with Knight, Greg Wesley and Jerome Woods. Brought in Knight to play SS, which moved Wesley from SS to his natural position (FS), and then moved Woods to the bench. I like our talent at this position as well.

Kicker-

Lawrence Tynes has been doing a good job.

Punter-

We drafted a punter in the 3rd this year. In training camp, Dante Hall said he had trouble fielding his punts, and Vermeil said there would be instances this season where the return guys would muff the punt because of the ay he kicks. I guess he punts it like a knuckleball, instead of a spiral. This has actually been the case this year, as both oakland and Philly botched a punt. Dustin Colquitt has done a very good job for us thus far.

Special Teams-

You always have to account for Dante Hall when he's lined up to return a kick.


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I think this is going to be a great game. Looking forward to hangin out here for the remainder of the week, and if you guys are interested in checking out a Chiefs board, try chiefsplanet (wont let me post a URL :( )


Good Luck!
 
You're in for a battle. It's pretty obvious Miami is a completely different team at home than on the road. They destroyed Denver and look at how the Broncos have played since. The Dolphins also beat Carolina, who is what, 4-2 now? I expect a close game, if only because Miami is at home.

As for Pat and Sammy: I didn't really want Pat gone, but Miami had to get high value for him while he was still near the top of his game. Sammy Knight is what he is - a playmaker. He'll force big turnovers, but he can also be a liability in coverage. I'm not surprised he's made big plays for KC. I wish both of them the best.
 
DolphinzD said:
You're in for a battle. It's pretty obvious Miami is a completely different team at home than on the road. They destroyed Denver and look at how the Broncos have played since. The Dolphins also beat Carolina, who is what, 4-2 now? I expect a close game, if only because Miami is at home.

As for Pat and Sammy: I didn't really want Pat gone, but Miami had to get high value for him while he was still near the top of his game. Sammy Knight is what he is - a playmaker. He'll force big turnovers, but he can also be a liability in coverage. I'm not surprised he's made big plays for KC. I wish both of them the best.


Agreed, couldn't have said it better...Sammy is an ok SS..he does mess up in coverage on occasion, but also comes up with a big play once in a while..is particularly good against the run...PS is one of the best corners in the league...we didn't have much of a choice in trading him and we have missed him. I wish them both the best also, but not this week....hehehehe
 
KC also doesnt have a very good track record when it comes to playing in Fla...
 
Patrick Surtain was the one Dolphins I never wanted to see go. He was always consistent. Sammy Knight wasn't so hard losing, I mean, he made good plays, but too many times he was looking @ the receivers name on the back of his jersey.
 
you guys picked up two great players in the secondary, i can tell you we miss them here in miami. good luck to u guys
 
This has been my most anticipated game that I have been looking forward to since I glanced at the schedule and Patrick Surtain and Sammy Knight both became Chiefs. I am definitely looking forward to this game and it should be an exciting game for Vonnie Holliday as well whom his former team (well one of them at least). Great analysis on the Chiefs, should be a great game. Good luck Sunday and let us hope for a good, exciting, low penalized game. :rawk:
 
must say, the guys from the Jets, Raiders, Broncos and Philly boards really downplayed the improvements we made in the offseason (namely Surtain and Knight). I'm thinking maybe we'll see a different opinion of those guys here, just because you know what they bring to the table.
Believe me, I am willing to bet 90% of the people (including me) on this board didn't want to see Surtain go; yes we know how talented he is and I am honestly worried about the threat he poses. This looks to be a very very good game.
 
The Miami fans at the game better not boo when the announcer Surtain or Knight though. They should get an applause before the game for sure and I will be dissapointed if they don't.
 
Chambers vs Surtain...this will be interesting. Chambers is definitly capable of winning this match, he burned Clements in Buffalo, but Surtain is a really good cb. I'm sure they know each other's strengths and weaknesses from the years past from practice. Miami should run the ball more in this game, becuase Miami is not going to find a tougher run D than Tampa for a while.
 
Great Thread! It's nice to see fans from other teams come here who express intelligent information and honest opinions without all the needless smack talk.
I've read some threads from this sights members and don't understand WHY they would down talk the Chiefs :fire: I'm not a Chiefs fan, but believe they can win anytime, anywhere. Their defense is much better this year as well.
The Fins are in transition, as everyone should know (some don't :confused: ), and the team has struggled alittle, penalties are a bummer. Should be a good game none the less, good luck!
 
Jets, Raiders, Broncos
You said theyguys on these boards tradhed your team fro the Knight and Pat pickups, well no **** you listed our rival and two of yours.

Good post by the way and I look foward to heraing more from you and your Chief buddies it will be a good game.

Yes I do miss Sammy and Pat.
 
A half time show worth watching

If you havent heard Marino will be presented with his HOF ring at the halftime, this sunday, so for us who are going it should be enjoyable.
 
so where are you guys at now?

I'm guessing...

QB up in the air, and at times being the detriment of the O? Solid RBs, but a shaky OL that has trouble opening holes for the running game? Decent weapons at WR and TE?

Questions at DL, with Taylor's status uncertain? How about your LBs? Zack in the middle still playing well? How bout your OLBs?

And I'd also think you'd guys be a notch below last year in the secondary, losing Knight and Surtain. How are their replacements and the rest of the group?
 
cmh6476 said:
so where are you guys at now?

I'm guessing...

QB up in the air, and at times being the detriment of the O? Solid RBs, but a shaky OL that has trouble opening holes for the running game? Decent weapons at WR and TE?

Questions at DL, with Taylor's status uncertain? How about your LBs? Zack in the middle still playing well? How bout your OLBs?

And I'd also think you'd guys be a notch below last year in the secondary, losing Knight and Surtain. How are their replacements and the rest of the group?

I hope this didn't come across as a knock, cause I didn't mean it like that...


I see no reason why Miami couldn't win this division, I don't think you can say that any other team in the east is head and shoulders better than the Fins. I was just trying to get some insight, as I know this team is quite a bit different than last year's team...
 
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