You Know What I Like About This New Administration?

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  1. illscriptures

    illscriptures We need better LB's

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    The fact that we don't have an obvious guy on the roster who should be cut from the team but isn't like we have in the past. e.g Daniel Thomas, Dallas Thomas, Jonathan Martin, Jason Allen, Koa Misi (I know some of you are going to have a titty attack with this overrated sack of crap), and Phillip Wheeler, amongst maybe a few others.

    These were all guys who were obvious weak links at starting positions, but now we dont really seem to have any at the moment. We have question marks in certain positions like DT and LBs but they arent necessarily weak, just unproven.

    To me this has been mostly Gase's doing trimming the fat, like giving Dallas Thomas and Billy Turner a chance, until it became obvious EARLY on in his tenure they were sub par players at their position. It feels like we have depth in certain areas, like WR, TE, RB, DE, CB, SS and FS,

    We do have some depth issues still left though, like Oline which is one Sitton or Tunsil injury away from highly questionable status. DT and LB is as good as anyone's guess at the moment. And most importantly, our team is one Ryan Tannehill injury away from a lost season.

    Man, this started so positively, What happened?
     
  2. ANUFan

    ANUFan FinHeaven VIP Finheaven VIP Donator

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    Wow! Someone actually promoting what they like about Administration compared to years of only bashing?
     
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  3. uk_dolfan

    uk_dolfan Founder of the FH Adam Gase fan club Moderator Finheaven VIP Donator

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    The no2 (and every other boundary corner not called Howard) cb situation is looking a bit alarming and i'm far from convinced that our lb group will be good, but you have a point about theres being no obvious Dallas Thomas
     
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    never thought about this, and yea, I like it too...

    I don't think our CBs will be too much issue if Lippet can stay healthy...I do think our LBs are still a glaring weakness unless somehow kiko being relieved from Mike helps us out more than I expect
     
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    Believe it or not, I try to restrain myself, but . . . there are steps to building a team. To me, step one is get rid of bottom 10% players. Looks like that's been done. Yes, there are some 'unknowns' who may end up bottom 10%, but no one who is currently projected bottom 10%. Second, upgrade low ranked players first. You know, like Bushrod and JT. This has been accomplished to a large degree. Can't upgrade everything in one off-season. True, there can be debates some weren't dumped soon enough and there are some who many fans would like upgraded, but glaring holes first.
    Personally, I'm tired of hearing worries about players with injuries and players who are 'old,' as if other teams don't have these players. It's football. There will be injuries (already has been on a number of teams). And (good) 'old' players often do quite well. In general, I like the changes made and the last 3 drafts. Finally, a FO making decisions I don't have an automatic negative response to.
     
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    The Goat Escape Goat Finheaven VIP

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    You don't undo a decade of Front Office dysfunction in two years. Particularly not when one of those years was like 2017.

    One of the least analyzed things that happened in Miami this past offseason was the coaching changes. New OC. New O-Line coach. New D-Line coach. New RB coach. New WR coach. The coaching staff UNDER Gase was pretty much purged. And in many of those cases, it was because the previous coaches didn't do their jobs. A few of those coaches wee holdovers from Philbin.

    Say what you want, but this is Gase's team now. I think Ross is in it for the long haul with him.
     
  7. AdamC13

    AdamC13 Awe "Tight End" my favorite position!

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    I would be on board with assessment if this administration didn’t also trim the prime rib or added some filet while doing so.

    Fitz is a good start but adding 1 filet, a few chuck, sirloin and round doesn’t make for a title contending team.
     
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    Fintastic2124 A True Fan

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    I didn’t really think about it. There has always been “that guy” that seems to make our roster every year even though he contributes absolutely nothing. I don’t see it this year.
     
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    Are you trying to make me hungry?
     
  10. illscriptures

    illscriptures We need better LB's

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    Not unless some of that chuck is actually choice meat.
     
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    superphin don't go clown shoes on us Finheaven VIP

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    Well when Marvin Lewis took over the Bengals in 2003 he gave the Bengals their first non losing season since 1996 and in 2005 gave them their 1st division title since 1990/winning season since 1990. If Palmer doesn't get injured the story of the Bengals is probably a whole lot different but regardless it took him 3 years to improve on a decade of poo.
     
  12. where's th'fish

    where's th'fish Scout Team Donator

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    We don't have a guy like that right now, true. We cut the ones we had from last year and brought in a bunch of new guys to start in FA and the draft. It seems we might have around 10 new starters, plus a kicker. That's a lot. We'll see how it goes with them.
     
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    I really fail to see how it's alarming. We have 2 players with starting experience there and a third player who was flashing in camp last year making a case for himself.
     
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    I'm not sure what a titty attack is
     
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    spiketex Kiko, El Bravo 47 - the yappy chihuahua Super Donator Donator

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    Agree with everything (except the dig on Koa - when he was healthy). However, the other big contributor not stated is GM, Chris Grier. Our Drafts have definitely improved in recent years and Grier with his scouts must be given some credit for it. What is apparent is that Gase, Grier and Tannenbaum are working as a team with a common goal. We don't have the dysfunction from the Ireland days when he and Philbin clearly hated each other.
    BTW - interesting that you mentioned Billy Turner. While he was a genuine bust as a Dolphin, it was quite amusing hearing John Elway yesterday lauding his training camp efforts as a Bronco.
     
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    Sofa_King_Drunk town drunk

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    Hey, Dolphins marketing team, AdamC13 just found you guys a new corporate sponsor [​IMG]
     
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  17. o0mofo0o

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    It’s definitely a positive! But on the other hand, this administration blows through it’s cap to the tune of:

    10 mil on Cutler

    17 on Maxwell

    6.5 on Mario Williams

    27 on Pouncey

    12.5 on Jordan Cameron

    5.6 on Julius Thomas

    17 on Andre Branch

    20 at minimum on Kiko’s new contact

    9 mil at minimum on TJM’s contract

    In total cap hits. Imo, we waste a ton of money on contracts. Tannenbaum just isn’t savvy at all when it comes to cap management. We also *always* have at least 10 million in dead cap under him. This year it’s 9 for Suh, and 5 elswhere and next year we have 13 tied up to Suh’s hit. We also have monstrous cap hits for Reshad (17, 15, 14) over the next three years which makes me wonder if he’ll be a cap casualty in 2020 or 2021.

    I’m glad that we no longer have glaring issues, but proper cap management would have let us keep Cody Parkey, Suh (and as much as everyone will kill me for this), Jarvis Landry. Or hell, we could have not traded for Quinn’s 12 million dollar contract. All of those savings could have given us a proper shot at an LBl like Zach Brown or Anthony Hitchens, or further address guard.

    All of this is compounded into us trading away solid talents like Ajayi or Jarvis for peanuts. Whether you like them or not, the last standard 4th, a compensatory 4th and a 7th is a terrible haul. This is made even worse when you consider we traded a 5th for an LB that probably won’t touch the field unless we’re desperate and traded a 4th and 5th for a WR that will get cut this offseason.

    All in all, as much as we’re no longer held back by the likes of Dallas Thomas, we still have an FO that buys high and sells low, which will reflect in our DT and LB corps this season, and potentially still in our OL.
     
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  18. Awsi Dooger

    Awsi Dooger A True Fan

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    I would nominate Stephone Anthony as a failed curiosity, and late last season as plenty of evidence
     
  19. KTOWNFINFAN

    KTOWNFINFAN Seasoned Veteran Hammered

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    Wow, after that post I suddenly realized I'm starving.
     
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  20. SF Dolphin Fan

    SF Dolphin Fan Seasoned Veteran

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    That's a good point. I do think this roster has a lot of young talent. Miami could obviously go either way, but it does look to me like the team is heading in the right direction with talent acquisition.
     
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    In progress...still to early....
     
  22. finmann

    finmann Pro Bowler Finheaven VIP

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    ...but it does make for one hell of a meal, and that's always a good start at the beginning of a long trip.
     
  23. iwastherein1972

    iwastherein1972 Well-Known Member

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    Raise the floor, THEN raise the ceiling.

    When worries over whether Tankersley et al. can hold up as a true #1 are foremost, compared with force starting an obvious 3rd-tier talent out of necessity...that's an improvement.

    suh and landry were gone, cap or not.

    Neither of them will ever wear a ring.

    This team is considerably more talented than ANY failbin edition of the Dolphins ever was. I think it has the highest overall talent level since the early 00's (pre-wannabe). Debatable if the fine man Sparano -RIP- had as much talent aside from Pennington and maybe a couple of others.

    The next 3 years likely assemble a title-contending team here. It took Shula 3 years too.
     
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    It seems as though are depth has been improved, which is great because guys are going to get hurt. If some of our draft picks, not only this year, but in the past few years can step up, we can have a nice young cheap core to build upon. Minkah, Geisicki, Harris, X, Raekwon, Tank, Godchaux, Tunsil, Drake, & Lippett.
     

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