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You’re All Forgetting: Kenny Stills And Ryan Tannehill Are Deep Ball Slayers For Dolphins

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Did you forget?

It may seem like eons ago, but in 2016, Tannehill hit Stills on touchdown bombs of 74, 66, 43, 39, 28 and 24 yards. (Former Dolphins quarterback Matt Moore also hit Stills for touchdowns of 52 and 28 yards).

That’s eight explosive touchdown catches. In one season.

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/sport...-slayers-for-dolphins/FiMg7AzvSwxcJye79huS1N/
 
DKphin said:
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Did you forget?

It may seem like eons ago, but in 2016, Tannehill hit Stills on touchdown bombs of 74, 66, 43, 39, 28 and 24 yards. (Former Dolphins quarterback Matt Moore also hit Stills for touchdowns of 52 and 28 yards).

That’s eight explosive touchdown catches. In one season.

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/sport...-slayers-for-dolphins/FiMg7AzvSwxcJye79huS1N/
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Just to be clear, how far did those passes travel through the air?
I seem to recall that Tanny’s Deep ball numbers were a reflection of the run numbers after the catch
 
I can remember all of us complaining that Tanny couldn’t hit the deep ball, and the counter to that was a set of unexpected stats that showed he was among the best completion % on the deep ball.
But, since the 2 didn’t seem to mesh, a deeper dive showed that his numbers really reflected much shorter passes, but the receivers ran for much yardage after
 
Stills is probably our best overall WR and I hope to see continued success with Tannehill.

I hope they can improve upon Stills catch % though in 2016 it was 51.9% I'd like to see him at least above 55%. I know he's our deep threat but he had a 64% catch % with the Saints while averaging 20.0 y/c as a rookie.
 
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TrinidadDolfan said:
I can remember all of us complaining that Tanny couldn’t hit the deep ball, and the counter to that was a set of unexpected stats that showed he was among the best completion % on the deep ball.
But, since the 2 didn’t seem to mesh, a deeper dive showed that his numbers really reflected much shorter passes, but the receivers ran for much yardage after
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Yeah, you might want to watch the games if you think his passes are all short.

Granted, Tannehill's deep accuracy was not one of his strengths when he first got in the league. But it's something he worked on, and in 2016 he was pretty darn good at it.

Don't believe me? Watch this video. He has great arm strength. This is his deep passes throughout his career. If you watch the whole thing, you can see he's a little late quite often early on. As the video progresses, you can see he's pretty dead on by the end. If you really want to see how he did in 2016, forward to around the 3 minute mark.



Edit, and since it's not on the above video, here's the pass Tannehill to Stills that I referenced on my previous post. Tannehill was behind the 50, and perfectly hit Stills in stride at the back of the endzone. But yeah, that's all Kenny running after a short pass, hmm?



...and one more, just be keep us honest. Here's Kenny Stills highlights for 2016. The first 3 minutes are he and Tannehill before Ryan got hurt. I think you can see from this what the OP meant - these two have a great chemistry downfield (pssstttt....notice how many are NOT short passes?)



So, I think your point is invalidated.
 
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Tannehill's accuracy on deep throws outside the hashes has improved, but it wasn't bad when he came into the NFL.

In 2012, our best vertical threat was Brian Hartline. In 2013 and 2014, Mike Wallace was the guy dialed up on those throws. Mike Wallace is actually lousy at catching deep vertical throws outside of the hashes, and the film bears that out. Go watch all of the deep shots to Wallace that were on target and dropped, misplayed, or caught out of bounds because Wallace's footwork on the sidelines was often atrocious. Watch the 2013 game vs Carolina. The Panthers were a team with a very good defense that was vulnerable deep. I told folks in VIP before the game 'we're going to dial up some deep balls and that's where our offense is going to come from.' And sure enough, it did. And sure enough, Mike Wallace actually had a chance to catch a touchdown to win the game at the end, but played it badly in the air and it slipped past his fingers at the goal line.

Watch his play in Minnesota and Baltimore too, if you don't believe me. Most of his production comes on underneath stuff. I personally think the guy needs contact lenses or LASIK. He doesn't have bad hands, but he plays balls really poorly when they're high in the air. I think it's eyesight related, and that's probably why nobody's ever figured it out. Not something you usually think about.
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
Tannehill's accuracy on deep throws outside the hashes has improved, but it wasn't bad when he came into the NFL.

In 2012, our best vertical threat was Brian Hartline. In 2013 and 2014, Mike Wallace was the guy dialed up on those throws. Mike Wallace is actually lousy at catching deep vertical throws outside of the hashes, and the film bears that out. Go watch all of the deep shots to Wallace that were on target and dropped, misplayed, or caught out of bounds because Wallace's footwork on the sidelines was often atrocious. Watch the 2013 game vs Carolina. The Panthers were a team with a very good defense that was vulnerable deep. I told folks in VIP before the game 'we're going to dial up some deep balls and that's where our offense is going to come from.' And sure enough, it did. And sure enough, Mike Wallace actually had a chance to catch a touchdown to win the game at the end, but played it badly in the air and it slipped past his fingers at the goal line.

Watch his play in Minnesota and Baltimore too, if you don't believe me. Most of his production comes on underneath stuff. I personally think the guy needs contact lenses or LASIK. He doesn't have bad hands, but he plays balls really poorly when they're high in the air. I think it's eyesight related, and that's probably why nobody's ever figured it out. Not something you usually think about.
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At one point I though Pittsburgh was dumb for taking Brown over Wallace......oops
 
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At one point I though Pittsburgh was dumb for taking Brown over Wallace......oops
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Wallace wasn't a bad player, but he was overpaid and I thought his antics at the end of his time here were kind of ridiculous. Taking yourself off the field because the offense isn't looking at you enough for your liking is something that two Dolphins players have done in the past four or so years. Completely ridiculous. Glad both are gone.
 
Michael Scott said:
Remember when most of y'all wanted Stills released after the drop in Seattle? Sure turned out to be a dependable guy; a flat out baller and team leader on and off the field. Not to mention an excellent role model for all he does for the community.
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Damnit why'd you have to remind me of that play...now I kinda want him cut again.
 
"Wallace wasn't a bad player"

whaaaa??? he was soooo bad in so many ways. It wasnt commented on much here, but I realized about 1/3 into the season that the problem with RT-to- Wallace (when RT had time to throw) was RT completely didnt trust him.

RT never said it nor implied it being the pro he is, but you could see it in the play. RT was literally nervous throwing to him as he didnt know if Wallace was going to run full speed, quit on the route, not battle for the ball, or try to do something unnecessary and fancy.

re-signing Wallace was the most mind boggling move by Fins in last 6 years- just ahead of not firing D Thomas during or after 2015 season.

okok i dont like him.
 
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