Youth Movement

[PhinRenaissance]

Whats up everyone? I just wanted to say that we all need to calm down on the head coaching front. Whoever we get will be better than Saban (including our in-house candidates). The real issue is how the new coach will decide to mix our current and potential young players with our older ones.

This draft will be key and unless quinn, thomas, or johnson are there, we NEED to consider Alan Branch. If we resign Vonnie, well automatically have cut the age of our defensive line in half. Assuming Carter is gone (or kept for leadership and in a reseserve role) Roth Branch Holliday and Taylor would be an amaizng line. Evans, the Wrights, and a vet could round it out nicely. We really need to get younger and more athletic on both lines, and the new coach will probably realize this fact. If we can land Branch/Jarrett...and flip flop between O and D in the rounds of this draft, we should be set.

 

[CitizenSnips]

Branch wont be there. His size alone will get him in the top 5 IMO because a lot of teams need that big man in the middle.

Jarrett will be, and im not totally against him depending on who else is there.

 

[RenoFinFan]

Branch wont be there. His size alone will get him in the top 5 IMO because a lot of teams need that big man in the middle.

Jarrett will be, and im not totally against him depending on who else is there.

I am totally with you on Jarrett. He addresses our team's biggest need and he offers value at the 9 spot. I think DL is our strongest area on the team. Of course, that will depend on who we resign in the off season. But we have some young talent that can take a bigger role in the rotation...Evans, Wright (Rodrique), Vickerson. While Roth seemed to step up his game this year and I would expect even more out of him next year.

 

[Ry24]

I am totally with you on Jarrett. He addresses our team's biggest need and he offers value at the 9 spot. I think DL is our strongest area on the team. Of course, that will depend on who we resign in the off season. But we have some young talent that can take a bigger role in the rotation...Evans, Wright (Rodrique), Vickerson. While Roth seemed to step up his game this year and I would expect even more out of him next year.

I dont think our biggest need is WR. Its either OL or CB

 

[CitizenSnips]

I am totally with you on Jarrett. He addresses our team's biggest need and he offers value at the 9 spot. I think DL is our strongest area on the team. Of course, that will depend on who we resign in the off season. But we have some young talent that can take a bigger role in the rotation...Evans, Wright (Rodrique), Vickerson. While Roth seemed to step up his game this year and I would expect even more out of him next year.

Hey, im not ruling out Manny Wright either. Saban being gone might just lift the world right off hise shoulders. He's a talented kid. ANyway, thats another story.

Wr is not our biggest needs, our biggest need is Oline. But theres not gonna be anyone in the Oline worth taking at #9. Jarrett will be worth it. It would would make a great core for us, and i'd be excited about him for years to come.

 

[Brown42000]

I'm not sold on Jarrett.

 

[CitizenSnips]

I wanna add an opinion about Ohio States receiver Ted Ginn. I think the combines gonna sky rocket Ginn. I beleive Ginn's gonna be in the middle of Track season when the combine comes around, so Ginn's going to run a ridiculous 40 time. Right now ginns a guy that would be considered a reach with the #9, but i feel by the time the combine comes and goes his stock is gonna rise.

 

[TampaFinsFan01]

Whats up everyone? I just wanted to say that we all need to calm down on the head coaching front. Whoever we get will be better than Saban (including our in-house candidates). The real issue is how the new coach will decide to mix our current and potential young players with our older ones.

This draft will be key and unless quinn, thomas, or johnson are there, we NEED to consider Alan Branch. If we resign Vonnie, well automatically have cut the age of our defensive line in half. Assuming Carter is gone (or kept for leadership and in a reseserve role) Roth Branch Holliday and Taylor would be an amaizng line. Evans, the Wrights, and a vet could round it out nicely. We really need to get younger and more athletic on both lines, and the new coach will probably realize this fact. If we can land Branch/Jarrett...and flip flop between O and D in the rounds of this draft, we should be set.

ROFL!!! Whoever we get will be better than Saban (including our in-house candidates). Are you kidding me? If I had said something even remotely close to this two weeks ago, I might have gotten banned from Finheaven.

Now it seems that everyone sees the light. I'm sorry. That sentence just struck me funny.

I just wish Huizenga would allow the GM to hire the coach. It would be better for everyone that way.

 

[TampaFinsFan01]

I wanna add an opinion about Ohio States receiver Ted Ginn. I think the combines gonna sky rocket Ginn. I beleive Ginn's gonna be in the middle of Track season when the combine comes around, so Ginn's going to run a ridiculous 40 time. Right now ginns a guy that would be considered a reach with the #9, but i feel by the time the combine comes and goes his stock is gonna rise.

Anyone who thinks Ginn is a reach at #9 didn't watch Devin Hester play at all this season. If Ginn can be half of what Hester was on kickoffs, hes worth it at #9. Because he can be the third or fourth WR as well. The kid can play.

 

[SuperFinsFan83]

I dont think our biggest need is WR. Its either OL or CB

Indeed. The Dolphin receivers aren't great, but there are more important areas. They need a solid, shut-down corner, improvement on the O-line, but don't underestimate the need for strong interior lineman. It's pretty clear the Fish weren't nearly as good on the d-line without their big man, Traylor.

 

[TampaFinsFan01]

I would say our biggest immediate need is LT. Then LB. Then WR. Then DLine. Then DB.

And of course, our REAL biggest need is a QB, but we could wait one year on that.

 

[CitizenSnips]

Anyone who thinks Ginn is a reach at #9 didn't watch Devin Hester play at all this season. If Ginn can be half of what Hester was on kickoffs, hes worth it at #9. Because he can be the third or fourth WR as well. The kid can play.

KR's are 'flavors of the year' IMO. I feel hester might score maybe one td return next year. Once you're known for being a monster return man, your done scoring touchdowns. All of a sudden ST coordinaters stop going through the motions and actually prepare to stop you.

Look at Micheal Lewis for New Orleans, Dante hall for the cheifs, Chad morton. I forget where he is now but he hasn;t score in awhile. KR's come, KR's go. If we take Ginn, it better be for his receiving skills, and not returning.

 

[CitizenSnips]

Indeed. The Dolphin receivers aren't great, but there are more important areas. They need a solid, shut-down corner, improvement on the O-line, but don't underestimate the need for strong interior lineman. It's pretty clear the Fish weren't nearly as good on the d-line without their big man, Traylor.

Your completely right that those needs are more important thatn receiver. I agree with you. But at #9, Jarret might be the BPA and the most 'needed'.

Branch will probably be drafted higher then he should, and pit**** (whose considered to be the next dt worth taking) is not worth a top ten pick. Theres also no good LTs to take other then Joe Thomas. Levi Brown has sluggish pass blocking skills, and he might even play RT for an nfl team, so hes not worht a top ten pick either. As for the corners, theres no such thing as a shut down corner. Im not happy with any of the corners in this draft, so i hope we stay away all together.

 

[RenoFinFan]

I'm not sold on Jarrett.

What is not to like? Just looking at his play in the 3 Bowl games he played in tells me all I need to know.

Orange Bowl (2005) against Oklahoma in championship game as a freshman: 5 catches 115 yards 1 TD

Rose Bowl (2006) against Texas in championship game as a sophomore: 10 catches 121 yards 1 TD

Rose Bowl (2007) against Michigan last Monday as a Junior: 11 catches 205 yards 2 TD

Total in 3 bowl games: 26 cathes 441 yards 4 TD

The game against Texas had Huff and Griffin in the secondary. The game against Michigan was against had Hall in the secondary whom many are calling for Miami to draft.

Add that in with the fact that he has caught a TD in 25 of the 38 games he played in, 12 games he scored more than one TD, and has a total of 41 TD in 38 games. Also, he has 13 games over 100 yards (including 2 games 200+ yards), 4 games 90-99 yards, 2 games 80-89 yards, and 1 game 70-79, 6 games 60-69 yards and we are talking about a consistent WR that we haven't had since the days of Clayton / Duper. All of that and he was hurt a little in the beginning of this year or his numbers would have been better.

All of that and he is only a Junior. BTW he is 6'5" and 215 lbs.

What else would he have to do for you to be sold on the guy?

 

[CitizenSnips]

What is not to like? Just looking at his play in the 3 Bowl games he played in tells me all I need to know.

Orange Bowl (2005) against Oklahoma in championship game as a freshman: 5 catches 115 yards 1 TD

Rose Bowl (2006) against Texas in championship game as a sophomore: 10 catches 121 yards 1 TD

Rose Bowl (2007) against Michigan last Monday as a Junior: 11 catches 205 yards 2 TD

Total in 3 bowl games: 26 cathes 441 yards 4 TD

The game against Texas had Huff and Griffin in the secondary. The game against Michigan was against had Hall in the secondary whom many are calling for Miami to draft.

Add that in with the fact that he has caught a TD in 25 of the 38 games he played in, 12 games he scored more than one TD, and has a total of 41 TD in 38 games. Also, he has 13 games over 100 yards (including 2 games 200+ yards), 4 games 90-99 yards, 2 games 80-89 yards, and 1 game 70-79, 6 games 60-69 yards and we are talking about a consistent WR that we haven't had since the days of Clayton / Duper. All of that and he was hurt a little in the beginning of this year or his numbers would have been better.

All of that and he is only a Junior. BTW he is 6'5" and 215 lbs.

What else would he have to do for you to be sold on the guy?

You should add, that Hall is concidered 'best' corner in the nation. Not just the guy people want us to draft, and Jarrett whooped his tail all over the field.