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Zach Thomas left off TSN's top 100 NFL players list

I noticed that too. TSN said that the Top 100 was based on not just last year but how the players played in the the last few years were also taken into account. Since 2001 Zack has not had less than 116 solo tackles and has always be a heck of a linebacker since becoming a pro. SO WHERE IS THE LOVE!!!
 
Zach is a regular Pro Bowl player and there are maybe 50 guys that make it from each Division each year.....how could Zach be left off. I would have Zach or JT as our best two players year in and year out....TSN better stick to covering baseball. :yell:
 
a good rookie year doesnt = a great career....cant even compare Vilma to Zach yet...thatd be like comparing Alex Smith to Joe Montana

the problem with sports today is that there are way too many homers and not enough educated fans
 
Nick is God said:
The Sporting News just released their top 100 NFL players of 2005 and only one Dolphin made it - Jason Taylor #17 - meaning Zach Thomas in the eyes of this magazine is not worthy of being in the top 100 of today's players.

Here are some notables who were put ahead of him:

100 - Dre' Bly, CB, Lions
96 - Mark Bulger, QB, Rams
95 - Ty Law, CB, Jets (one of five Jets on the list)
94 - Donovin Darius, S, Jaguars
90 - Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila, DE, Packers
89 - Shawn Springs, S, Redskins
86 - Brian Westbrook, RB, Eagles
84 - Al Wilson, LB, Broncos (where in the hell was he this past Sunday? :shakeno: )
83 - Rudi Johnson, RB, Bengals
81 - Charles Grant, LB, Saints
80 - Leonard Little, LB, Rams
73 - Charles Tillman, CB, Bears
66 - Michael Lewis, S, Eagles
64 - Cornelius Griffin, DT, Redskins
63 - Jonathan Vilma, LB, Jets
62 - Shaun Ellis, DE, Jets
50 - Patrick Surtain, CB, Chiefs

And I'm not trying to suggest that Thomas is better than all these players, but it's hard to believe that he doesn't deserved to be at least ranked with them.

I guess heart, leadership and hard work doesn't count for nothing with it comes to the Sporting News.
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He's better than most of them
 
His explaination on Zach...lame.


No linebacker can dominate a game quite like No. 8 Ray Lewis. His critics say he isn't what he used to be, but there still isn't anyone better.

Appreciation for No. 23 Brian Urlacher only grew last season when he missed seven games with injuries. The Bears' record with Urlacher: 5-4; without him: 0-7. All No. 63 Jonathan Vilma did as a rookie was find the ball and make the play -- over and over. He could be the heir apparent to Lewis as the next great middle linebacker.

The Broncos might have the finest set of linebackers in the league, and the man in the middle is No. 84 Al Wilson. No. 99 James Farrior had the best season of his eight-year career in 2004, giving him the edge for the last inside spot over Zach Thomas of the Dolphins.
 
Why don't we compare apples to apples, let's compare Rookie seasons.
Zach's rookie season was better than vilma's, (although close) and with the exception of Zach's interception total last year, his season was still better than Vilmas.

G Total Tckl Ast Sacks Int Yds Avg Lg TD Pass Def
1996 16 155 120.0 35 2 3 64 21.3 27 1 2


2004 16 107 77.0 30 2 3 58 19.3 38 1 2
 
Wildbill3 said:
Why don't we compare apples to apples, let's compare Rookie seasons.
Zach's rookie season was better than vilma's, (although close) and with the exception of Zach's interception total last year, his season was still better than Vilmas.

G Total Tckl Ast Sacks Int Yds Avg Lg TD Pass Def
1996 16 155 120.0 35 2 3 64 21.3 27 1 2


2004 16 107 77.0 30 2 3 58 19.3 38 1 2
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Donb't forget Vilma didn't start early on and he came in and stabilized a D that was struggling early on and was brutal the year before. You can't go just on #s, Vilma had a better year last year than Zach.
 
nyjunc said:
Donb't forget Vilma didn't start early on and he came in and stabilized a D that was struggling early on and was brutal the year before. You can't go just on #s, Vilma had a better year last year than Zach.
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and Zach missed three games, while vilma started every game, and Zach still outtackled the boy.
 
nyjunc said:
Donb't forget Vilma didn't start early on and he came in and stabilized a D that was struggling early on and was brutal the year before. You can't go just on #s, Vilma had a better year last year than Zach.
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Ok, we were struggling all year against the run, but when Zach was in... he simply dominated. I love how we can even prove you wrong with #'s and you come back and say he still had a better year... (Donnie Henderson had nothing to do with stabilizing your D right?). What about the rookie year comparisns, he was better then too? Still just gunna say "Well Vilma had a better year"? Don't gimme BS, give me hard evidence.
 
Wildbill3 said:
and Zach missed three games, while vilma started every game, and Zach still outtackled the boy.
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Again, tackles can be a very misleading statistic. B/c one has mroe tackles does not make them a better player. Dolphins opponents ran the ball almost 100 more times than Jets opponents so he had alot more chances.
 
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