09' Salary Cap?

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  1. finsfan4life

    finsfan4life In Dawn We Trust!

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    Anybody know how we're looking?
     
  2. SR 7

    SR 7 Banned Hammered

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    i believe we are 21.6 mill under and 6th best in the nfl.

    i do expect miami to cut HOlliday and save another 4-5 mill in cap most likely.
     
  3. PHAZINPHINZPHAN

    PHAZINPHINZPHAN Seasoned Veteran

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    I think we will be around 20 million under cap. Hopefully we will go after a DB and maybe a WR. And we can also use some of our draft picks for depth and WR and DB
     
  4. FinFrenzy

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    Right now IMHO it will be somewhere around 19.7 mil
     
  5. DaytonaDolFan13

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    According to Phinzilla we are 20 million under the cap and have 21.2 mill in dead cap that we should free up when the season is over.

    That's roughly 41.2 million available for next year.

    CAN THAT BE RIGHT? It seems ASTRONOMIMICAL


    check this.........


    [www.phinzmania.com]
     
  6. finsfan4life

    finsfan4life In Dawn We Trust!

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    Good stuff fellas, I knew we had a bunch of cap room. Should be an interesting offseason with a lot of money and an extra 2nd rounder. Of course, this season isn't over yet though.
     
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    what do you guys think about maybe trading for B. Edwards? Signing Osi (corner from Raiders) or maybe Suggs. Then build more in the draft, I think we could use another couple OL and possibly a new center. Pash rushing LB would be nice too to have opposite of Porter. Maybe also get some DE that can rush the QB or another DT cause Ferggie is getting up there in age.
     
  8. finsfan4life

    finsfan4life In Dawn We Trust!

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    The first thing on my wish list is a linebacker. You have Suggs, Dansby, Lewis, Barton, & Scott available.

    We obviously have to address corner, but I don't want to give up what it will take to get Asomugha. I'd prefer a guy like Bartell or McFadden.

    As far as Edwards goes, I don't know what the Browns would want for him.
     
  9. Mazinator1027

    Mazinator1027 Da Man

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    The bottum line is that we are only going to get better through free agency and the draft and the dolphins are going to be a team your not gonna wanna play.
     
  10. X-Pacolypse

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    That's a lot of money to lock up a lot of the players that need new contracts, and dole out some extensions as well. Plus, even more money to sign those draft picks! Which hopefully, we'll have lots of them!
     
  11. DuderinoN703

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    Cleveland's asking price would probably be too high
     
  12. taylormvp99

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    I'd give Asomugha whatever he wants. The guy takes out the opponents #1 guy no matter who he is.
     
  13. Philter25

    Philter25 MORE COWBELL!!!

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    Thats my cap sheet, and you bet its right! We have a ton of dead cap coming off the books. I have my prelim 2009 sheet started and we are 30+ million under the cap. Dont forget, as players stay under contract, their salary goes up so it wont be quite 40 million.
    We have about 7 million in dead cap because of JT, McCown, Feely, Lehan, Peelle, and Hagan.

    Remember, Crowder, Carey, Goodman, Hill, Bell are all free agents along with Crocker and Moses. All those contracts are gone.

    Add it all up and its about 30 million. Figure Holliday and Wilford are potential cuts, and we are looking at 35 million under the cap. We can pretty much sign whoever we want, but I think we stay away from the extreme 10+ million a year high priced free agents.
     
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  14. DaytonaDolFan13

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    Thats my cap sheet, and you bet its right! -->> AWESOME INFO thank you. DAMN thats alot of money.
     
  15. BARF

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    wow thats a lot of money to mess with. i think most of us were in the woom the last time the fins had that much money to mess with
     
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    Last time I heard the word woom I was in the WOMB!
     
  17. Wadeshow

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    cant wait for the offseason to fully start. But I would not want B.Edwards in a dolphins uniform people used to hate on chambers and I feel like edwards is a carbon copy of chambers. He drops the ball way to much.
     
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    Philter25 MORE COWBELL!!!

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    Again, thats my "prelim" cap sheet for 2009. :lol: See earlier post.

    If you read the preface on the salary cap I wrote on that website, I currently have 43 contracts on the cap page. That 30.9 million only takes 43 contracts into account. I estimated the 2009 cap to be 123 million. Cap's take the top 51 contracts into count. Usually, the last few top contracts to be counted against the top 51 are minimum salary contracts, like rookies or special teams guys or backups.

    I havent accounted for any camp fodder or minor roster signings, which Miami will make a lot of. (When I say fodder or minor contracts, I mean like Anthony Armstrong - 310k, Scorpio Barbers - 310k, Will Billingsley - 310k, Chris Brown - 310k, Joe Cohen - 310k, Lex Hilliard - 310k, Erik Walden - 385k, Matt McChesney - 460k, etc.) I think Miami will make a lot of those minor and camp fodder signings, and releases, and tracking each one of them and updating a minimum contract with another minimum contract is a very tedious job and usually results in no net change on the salary cap.

    For comparison and estimating purposes heading into free agency, if you add 8 contracts (which because I am counting 43 contracts, 8 more are needed for the top 51 rule) at about 500k each (estimated minimum salary of camp fodder contracts), thats another 4 million, which would put us about 26 million under the cap if we counted 51 contracts.

    There have been a few other media outlets which have put us at 24.5 million under the cap, which is pretty close to my estimated 26 million taking the top 51 rule into account.

    Factor in rookie signings and us carrying about 2 million in cap space throughout the season if we needed to make an emergency signing, and we probably have around 20 million to spend in free agency if we wanted to. Thats the number to know.

    I usually update my page 4-5 times a year at every major point during the NFL season so check back for updates.
     
  20. lbmclean_sj

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    why does the dead cap count? shouldn't it come off for 2009?
     
  21. cyesae

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    we have around 20 mil now that we signed wake and kilmer i still dont really understand how draft picks are calculated into this
     
  22. Philter25

    Philter25 MORE COWBELL!!!

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    Nope. Say you signed a player to a multi year contract and gave him a signing bonus. That bonus is prorated over the duration of the contract for cap purposes.

    Say you sign a player for 4 years and 8 million as a bonus, it counts 2 million per year (for 4 years) against the cap (for a total of 8 years).
    If you release a guy in the first year of his deal (like McCown) after June 1st, then the 2008 portion of his signing bonus counts against the cap, and the 2009, 2010 and remaining years proration counts towards the 2009 cap. Only his base salary is removed.

    Say you trade a player, like Jason Taylor, after June 1st. His 2008 proration still counts against the cap, but the remaining proration all counts against next years cap.
     
  23. Philter25

    Philter25 MORE COWBELL!!!

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    Taking the top 51 contracts into account, we still have about 26 million under the cap.
     
  24. DaytonaDolFan13

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    So who will we make a run at?

    Housh? Bouldin? Farrior?
     
  25. finsfan4life

    finsfan4life In Dawn We Trust!

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    My guess is Dansby and/or Scott.
     
  26. Philter25

    Philter25 MORE COWBELL!!!

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    Im guessing you mean Boldin.
    Its hard to make a run at guys who arent a free agent. :hi5:
     
  27. Roth's Wrath

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    Where do we go to get a complete list of NFL Team salary cap? How do we know we rank 6th? is there a list out there on nfl.com or espn?
     

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