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Brian Quick is one guy I'm really interested in seeing how he does this week.
I also would be interested to acquire him if we could get at the right slot in the draft. At just under 6-4 and 220lbs., he has pretty good agility for a guy his size. I have seen his speed listed any from the mid 4.5 - mid 4.6. He is not going to run away from a lot of people, but he knows how to use his size to wall off defenders for the ball also gets in and out of his breaks quickly. I think he compares favorably to Brandon Marshall. Most people have him slated going in the 2nd, but this draft has a bunch of big receivers in it and if he is there in the 3rd , what a great value. We need a another receiver to pair with Marshall and Quick is among many in this draft.
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Quick is over 6'5" afaik.

That's what's intriguing about him. You almost can't go wrong with him if his hands are good as you can look at him as a seam-busting TE if he's not quite mobile enough for WR. Teams are getting creative at the TE position to get mismatches and I think Quick could be a great hybrid player for a team with imagination.

Ledarius Green is another very interesting guy, a pure TE with great hands and very fluid movement for such a big guy. Basketball convert, I think.
 
Monday morning weigh-in.... The Tale of the Tape

This morning was the National Combine weigh-in for players, otherwise famously known as the 'Meat Market.' Nobody blew the house away by being Charles Atlas (on steroids or not), however, there weren't any whale sightings either. Here are some numbers I thought were rather interesting.

Not counting the kicking specialists 98 position players were put through the height/weight tape process in Mobile today. Of those:

29 players were under 6-0 tall.
24 players weighed 300 pounds. or more.
All 18 offensive linemen weighed in at 300 pounds or more.
Only 6 of the 16 defensive linemen weighed 300 pounds or more.

HEAVIEST PLAYERS:
OG CORDY GLENN, Georgia 346
DT ALAMEDA TA'AMU, Washington 341
OG KELECHI OSEMELE, Iowa State 333

TALLEST PLAYERS:
OT MIKE ADAMS, Ohio State 6-7
DE QUINTON COPLES, North Carolina 6-5 3/4
OT TONY BERGSTROM, Utah 6-5 1/2

LIGHTEST PLAYERS:
WR PATRICK EDWARDS, Houston 168
WR JOE ADAMS, Arkansas 174
CB BILL BENTLEY, ULL 176
RB CHRIS RAINEY, Florida 178

SHORTEST PLAYERS:
WR MARQUIS MAZE, Alabama 5-7 3/4
RB CHRIS RAINEY, Florida 5-8 3/8
WR PATRICK EDWARDS, Houston 5-8 7/8

All 8 listed RB prospects were under 6-0 tall.
Of the 6 listed TE in Mobile only 1 weighed at least 250 pounds and that was Michael Egnew of Missouri who tipped the scales at 251 pounds. Interesting because Egnew is considered to be one of those bulked up WR TE types.

Wisconsin QB Russell Wilson was hurt as much, or more than anyone, by the tape measure when he came in at just 5-10 5/8 tall which is veery short for an NFL QB. Everyone he was under 6-0, but most figured that he was at least 5-11 is a double whammy against him. Slightly in his favor, was the fact that Wilson's hand spread measured at 10-inches. That is the "magic" number that NFL personnel people use when deciding if a QB can grasp the football firmly in cold and/or wet conditions or not. For the record, among the QBs Nick Foles, who measured in at a robust 6-5, 244, had the largest hands at 10 3/4, followed by San Diego State's Ryan Lindley at 10 1/8 whereas Michigan State's Kirk Cousins (9 7/8), Boise State's Kellen Moore (9 3/8) and, somewhat surprisingly, Oklahoma State's Brandon Weeden (9 1/2) each had hand a measurement under 10 inches.

Alabama LB Courtney Upshaw has been one of the leading OLB candidates all season, but his weigh-in here has me thinking he's more likely to be a 4-3 DE pass rusher, or an ILB guy in a 3-4 scheme when he measured only 6-1 1/2, but weighed a squat 273 pounds. And no, he did not look fat, but also regsitered relatively short (31 1/2) arms. There is a similar thought process for the athletic South Carolina DE Melvin Ingram who was 6-1 7/8 and 276 pounds with an arm length under 31 inches. Fact is that NFL scouts like their DEs to have longer arms to help get separation from opposing blockers so those wingspan numbers aren't going to help either guy.

Not exactly the tale of the tape here, but I want to editorialize just a bit on what I see as a continuing trend. The steroid freak, pumped up frames are all but gone these days. Most of these 300+ pounders have some soft tissue in their upper bodies. The more sculpted guys are often the DB, LB and RB types. I think it is a testimonial that to a large extent drug testing and education about steroids and HGH type substances have hit home and are no longer a big part of training regimens. In the wast majority of the cases even the big offensive linemen carry about 305-310 pounds, not the 325-350 we saw 4 years ago.

Speaking of big offensive linemen, though, two guys who likely at least passed the eyeball test today were OGs Kelechi Osemele of Iowa State and Georgia's Cordy Glenn. Osemele, in particular, had been projected to weigh over 350 pounds, but weighed in in Mobile at a 'svelte' 333 pounds. Osemele also had registered long arms at over 35 inches as well as big hands. Meanwhile, Glenn weighed in at 345 pounds, but didn't look fat or out of shape, and like Osemele posted an arm length over 35 inches. As a result, both guys could get increased scrutiny as potential NFL OTs which will likely increase their value on draft day. At the same time, Florida State OT Zebrie Sanders arm length came in at just under 35 inches, while his hands were huge at a full 11 inches, while UAB OT Matt McCants also had 35 inch arms.
http://www.gbnreport.com/seniorbowlreport.htm
 
Quick is over 6'5" afaik.

That's what's intriguing about him. You almost can't go wrong with him if his hands are good as you can look at him as a seam-busting TE if he's not quite mobile enough for WR. Teams are getting creative at the TE position to get mismatches and I think Quick could be a great hybrid player for a team with imagination.

Ledarius Green is another very interesting guy, a pure TE with great hands and very fluid movement for such a big guy. Basketball convert, I think.

Quick measured in at 6'3.5", what a load of bull going around about him being 6'5"+. That puts a very different slant on him and by all accounts he was pretty sloppy and sluggish yesterday.

Ledarius Green had a pretty solid practice from what I've read though.

DK, afaik = (as far as I know)
 
[h=1]Senior Bowl notebook: Monday[/h]MOBILE, Ala. — NFL business moves quickly. The league crowned conference champions Sunday ... and by Monday, a healthy portion of the league was looking forward to April's draft.

Welcome to the Senior Bowl, where practices kicked off Monday. With the North and South clubs practicing at the same time but at different locations, I was only able to observe the North club on the first day of practice. Here's what I saw:
Michigan State QB Kirk Cousins looked to have the strongest arm of the North quarterbacks. He threw the day's best pass, an absolute rope to Arizona State WR Geren Robinson on a deep in-route. I liked Cousins' sense of anticipation: He threw the ball to a spot, and it hit Robinson just as he came out of his break.

Boise State QB Kellen Moore had an up-and-down practice and really seemed to struggle to drive the ball on downfield throws. Having never before seen Moore in a workout setting, I'm not going to overreact to one so-so practice on a drizzly afternoon with new teammates, and I look forward to seeing how he plays the next two days.

Ohio State WR DeVier Posey had a couple of drops, including one where Cousins threw a beautiful deep ball to his back shoulder, but overall, he looked like he belonged, in my view. This is an important week for Posey. He gets to meet with teams, a golden opportunity after he missed 10 games in 2011 because of rules violations. Also, he gets a chance to put some of his work on tape.

Nebraska CB Alfonzo Dennard's biggest strength, as he sees it? "What I do best is get in a receiver's face and be physical with him," he said Monday night. He caught my eye in the first practice, playing like the North's top cornerback. That physicality was apparent, and he also showed good ball skills.

• Just an observation, but I would guess whoever drafts Cincinnati RB Isaiah Pead will work with him to strengthen his lower body. He has relatively skinny legs compared to the other North RB prospects.

California WR Marvin Jones had a solid day. He consistently got open and caught the ball well. Afterward, he gave me a brief rundown on each of the North quarterbacks: "Kirk, he blazes the ball, and he puts it on the spot. (Wisconsin QB Russell Wilson), you've seen him hitting a lot of seams. He can telegraph where the receiver's going to be and the ball's spot on. And Kellen, we both had an opportunity to complete a lot of deep balls, and his deep ball is perfect."

• Another pass catcher who had a good first day: N.C. State WR T.J. Graham. Good quickness.

• I focused mainly on the North's quarterbacks, wide receivers, running backs and cornerbacks on Day One. I'll likely have a similar focus in the South's first practice Tuesday. I am very interested to see North Alabama CB Janoris Jenkins, the ex-Florida standout, and Georgia CB Brandon Boykin.

Something I'm looking forward to seeing this week at practice:
Can Courtney Upshaw be this year's Von Miller? Miller was the clear-cut top prospect last year and had a very strong week. This year, it's Upshaw who could be the first pass rusher off the board in April's draft. All eyes are on the Alabama product. We'll see how he handles the pressure against some top offensive tackles.
http://www.profootballweekly.com/2012/01/24/senior-bowl-notebook-monday-2
 
Monday afternoon practice (South) ... Dodging bullets!!

I made my way over to soggy Fairhope Field for the South practice this afternoon. A late morning deluge had made the entire area a swamp. The field was not in good shape for the size and speed of these players. Lots of slips and falls by receivers and defenders. Texas A&M WR Jeff Fuller, in particular, lost his footing multiple times. Just hoping we don't hear about an injury incurred on that practice field tomorrow morning.

Some teams/owners just have too damned much money to play with. The Redskins brought an entire truck full of their own equipment just in case. Indeed, the Eureka Van & Storage truck rental was parked at the South end of the practice field track. All the way from Fairfax, Virginia.

No question that Georgia offensive lineman Cordy Glenn is going to be a first round choice this coming April because he is a naturally huge and gifted football player with incredibly nimble feet for a 6-5.5, 346 pound human being. Glenn also has a very even temperament to deal with the ups and downs of life as a LT and may not have to move inside to OG at the next level as he looks like he has the athleticism to handle the OT slot just fine thank you. Indeed, Glenn is going to hand out some punishment to defenders this week with his blocking efforts and he got off to a solid start today.

Much to my surprise Arkansas DE Jake Bequette is practicing with the South LB group. I guess my first clue should have been when he measured in at 6-4 ½ and only 264 pounds at the Monday morning weigh-in. The word must have gotten to his agent that the NFL folks see him standing up for a living a la Ryan Kerrigan, a first round pick by Washington at the 2011 raft. Bequette may not be quite as good as Kerrigan, but there are similarities between the two athletes, including a non-stop motor chasing down the passer. I suspect Bequette will try and lose another 10 pounds or so by the combine to improve his speed and quickness. The first phase of his transition will be interesting to watch down here this week.

I still think more highly of Arizona WR Juron Criner than many people and he didn't do anything today to disappoint. At 6-2, 220, Criner is a load for smaller CBs and there were several occasions today when he was not hesitant to give his defender a little shove to gain some separation. Unless he needs a sun dial to time him when he runs the 40 at next month’s combine, I think this man has a lot of NFL potential. He showed good hands several times today and seems to locate the ball in the air very well.

The parade of overgrown WRs masquerading as TEs continues down here. The latest disguise artist is Louisiana-Lafayette TE Ladarius Green. At 6-6, 237 the former Ragin’ Cagun is really just a bulked up wideout; however, he’s also a really good looking athlete who made several nice catches today, but I don't see how he can be expected to line up and block at the NFL level. I think we are on the verge of creating a new positional name for the NFL. Let's call them BRs or Big Receivers and be done with it. The FB has disappeared from many NFL rosters maybe the true TE position will be next.

One of the fun things about attending the one practice at Fairhope is being able to stand right along he sidelines and see the action up close and personal. The one big disadvantage, though, is that a person can find themselves in harms way when plays come wide and these large, fast young men come hurtling towards the sideline spectators at full speed. We had several mad stampedes to create space between ourselves and the approaching action in the area I stood in for a while. What the average person doesn't realize unless you have been down there is that most of the time you can't move fast enough to escape the mayhem. It's like the football version of 'running with the bulls'. Participate at your own risk.

It sure didn't take much watching to realize that the Shanahan contingent are going to find as many ways as possible to utilize the speed and explosiveness of Florida RB/WR Chris Rainey, who with former teammate Jeff Demps trying out for the US Olympic sprint team, may be the fastest player in college football. The little mighty might certainly was very busy today running, receiving and fielding punts. In an attempt to create max impact, expect to see Rainey get as many as 15 touches in Saturday‘s game, which is a high number for a game like this.

We'll see how things play out, but the arm strength of the South QBs will easily trump those on the North side. The big question will be how accurate these big guns can be. In fact, both Nick Foles of Arizona and San Diego State’s Ryan Lindley had some accuracy troubles at times today. In contrast, Oklahoma State’s Brandon Weeden was the most accurate of the three on the first day of practice. Of note, though, was the fact that during passing drills there were multiple occasions where secondary coverage was so tight that the QBs had to clearly throw the ball away or be called for holding the ball too long and declared sacked.

Last year one of the most surprising performances of the week was the play of undersized LB Brian Rolle of Ohio State who went on to play well for Philadelphia as a rookie this fall. Though not quite as short as Rolle, 5-11, 228-pound Miami LB Sean Spence looks to have the same kind of athleticism and mobility to be a tackling machine this week. He was very productive at Miami when healthy and seems to be able to use his quickness, strength and tenacity to find the ball and make plays. He also is off to a very fast start down here.
http://www.gbnreport.com/seniorbowlreport.htm
 
Quick measured in at 6'3.5", what a load of bull going around about him being 6'5"+. That puts a very different slant on him and by all accounts he was pretty sloppy and sluggish yesterday.

Ledarius Green had a pretty solid practice from what I've read though.

DK, afaik = (as far as I know)
With more and more teams looking towards more athletic TEs than ones that can block, you are going to see more guys like Green. For me it is guys like Witten that raise my attention, a guy that can do it all. I know that is getting harder to find players like that these days, but they are out there.
 
↑ BRANDON WEEDEN - QB - OKLAHOMA STATE:Of all the South quarterbacks today, Weeden looked the best. He was crisp on his throws and displayed some of the best accuracy all day. Even Weeden’s arm strength was impressive with a number of throws audibly being heard hitting receivers. He definitely has a great command of the huddle and doesn’t appear to have any difficulty making the tough throws, like the deep outs, the slants, the flag routes or even taking the edge off on touch passes. A great start for Weeden thus far and if he keeps this up, people are going to start downplaying his age instead of blowing it out of proportion.

↑ JOE ADAMS - WR - ARKANSAS: Adams was definitely the star of South practice today, showing off his lightning quickness and ball skills all day. He absolutely torched Vanderbilt’s Casey Hayward on a flag route that was unfortunately overthrown by San Diego State’s Ryan Lindley. Adams seemed to haul in everything thrown his way and made a beautiful tip-toe grab on the sidelines that drew a few oohs and ahhs from the crowd. The Razorback definitely brings bigtime deep speed to the table but he has the ball skills and intelligence to win his matchups and consistently get open against the South corners.
↑ LADARIUS GREEN - TE - LOUISIANA-LAFAYETTE: The big man had a terrific outing at Fairhope, showing off terrific ball skills and agility that defies his super sized frame. Green twice made plays on overthrown passes in the skeleton drill portion and dominated in the seven on seven drills. He made a wicked catch on an underthrown pass that was directly over Texas linebacker Keenan Robinson’s head but the impressive part is that he made the catch look easy and quickly went upfield for more yards. Green was a runner up for the star of day one award just behind Adams but regardless, he’s going to do a lot for his draft stock if he keeps up his stellar play.
↑ JURON CRINER - WR - ARIZONA: I’ll go ahead and confess my bias for a prospect that I’m pretty smitten with, as the receiver from Arizona has great ball skills, terrific size and he has a much better release than he’s given credit for. Criner had a great showing with a number of consecutive catches that was only broken by a slant route that was broken up by “Bill” Bently of Louisiana-Lafayette. Criner torched Ryan Steed on a nine route up the right sideline and there weren’t any moves made on the route, he just took him for a ride. The Wildcat made a play on everything and converted on some poorly thrown passes but also made some plays that should have his stock a little more buoyant as the draft draws near.
↑ DWIGHT “BILL” BENTLY - CB - LOUISIANA-LAFAYETTE: I have to credit Scott Wright of Draftcountdown.com for being one of the first to tip me off on Bently but I should also credit Bently for making it blatantly clear today that he’s a player. He consistently drew praise from Raheem Morris, the Redskins’ new defensive backs coach, and for good reason, thanks to his physical play and great instincts in coverage. He intercepted a Nick Foles throw on a pass intended for Jeff Fuller who was running a curl route but Bently actually beat him on the outside to cut the angle and take the football back the other direction. If there was a defensive MVP of day one, it would have to go to “Bill” Bently from my view of the sidelines.
JANORIS JENKINS - CB - NORTH ALABAMA: The former Florida Gator had a so-so day, having issues lineup once and biting on a double move by Edwards. He is one of the more physical corners on the roster with his ability to bump receivers and close quickly on ball carriers. He absolutely blew up a check down pass after a clear out attempt by the receiver but he closed out the lane and knocked Terrence Ganaway out of bounds into a couple of scouts. (That’ll teach ‘em) All in all, a decent start but he’s definitely a player that I simply have to see a full week of because of the background issues that haunt him.
RYAN STEED - CB - FURMAN: Steed had his moments of impressiveness but also some regrettable lost battles against the South receivers. He was right on top of Fuller on a curl route that he was able to break up and he also beat Fuller to the football on an outroute by breaking on the ball and cutting directly underneath the intended receiver. Steed did have his difficulties with double moves and was beaten by Juron Criner on a nine route easily that Steed almost caught back up to but his two misteps put him out of that matchup. There’s no question that he’s an NFL player and has terrific athleticism, I’d just like to see a little more consistency tomorrow.
JEFF FULLER - WR - TEXAS A&M: Fuller had an up and down day today but some of the drops I will credit to first day jitters and even though he lost his footing twice during the practice, the field at Fairhope stadium was completely soaked so I’ll be interested to watch Fuller at Ladd Peebles tomorrow. The guy made a really nice adjustment on an underthrown Ryan Lindley pass and also was able to recover after a miscommunication between he and Nick Foles, as Fuller turned inside initially but Foles threw a back shoulder pass and Fuller was able to spin around off of his jump and haul the football in but as I mentioned above he had a very difficult time matching up with Steed.
TERRENCE GANAWAY - RB - BAYLOR: I wasn’t really impressed with Ganaway, who had a drop in the sekeleton drills and did not look explosive at all through the running lane drills. Ganaway was another player that suffered through footing issues but I’ll once again, chalk that up to the field conditions at Farihope, either way a runner has to find a way to overcome the elements. There certainly wasn’t a lot to glean from today’s work so I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt here but he should be able to show a lot more when the do the pass blocking drills, backs on backers and more live scrimmages.
↓ PATRICK EDWARDS - WR - HOUSTON: Edwards has impressive speed and his back story is one to know and love, as he’s a former walk-on that has been through a rough patch of injuries. He did, however have a few drops on the day and isn’t a consistent hands catcher. He had an extremely noticeable drop out of the slot, as he ran a nice turnaround over the middle but let the ball bounce right off his chest. He also had a big drop on a slant route that, to his credit, he was wide open on but it was another pass that he let into his body and he simply could not control.
↓ RYAN LINDLEY - QB - SAN DIEGO STATE: Maybe it’s because Weeden looked so polished and that’s what made Lindley appear to be extremely rough around the edges but his ball placement was terribly inconsistent today. Lindley has adequate arm strength and a nice delivery but his release is a bit elongated and his accuracy is still an issue on all ranges off attempts. He had a number of overthrows on deep routes and his mid range game is lacking, as he twice hit Jeff Fuller on the shoe laces and also couldn’t seem to throw his receivers open on the large number of slant routes that were run today.
DRAFT NOTES: Bulldogs OG Cordy Glenn actually saw a lot of reps at left tackle and the big man from Georgia looked very comfortable there. Although his future is more likley at the guard position, he’d be able to play on the outside in a pinch and could feasibly play on the right side with his length and power.
Arkansas DE Jake Bequette is listed here in Mobile as an “LB” and that’s exactly where Bequette saw a lot of action in today’s practice but it was not to his benefit, as his 271 pound frame took quite the effort to manipulate in space. There are certainly teams looking at him as an outside linebacker but he will be best served playing with his hand in the dirt as a base end.

http://www.rookiedraft.com/?p=5305
 
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MOBILE, Ala. -- I was able to get my first look at the South Team in the 2012 Senior Bowl on Tuesday afternoon. On Monday, both teams practiced at the same time but at different facilities so I could only observe one of the teams and I opted to go to the practice that didn't require a 25-minute drive.

The South Team features the better wide receiver corps with some familiar big time NCAA wide receivers such as Arizona's Juron Criner, Texas A&M's Jeff Fuller, North Carolina's Dwight Jones, and Arkansas Joe Adams. Of the receiver group, Criner seemed to have the best day. He has nice size at 6-foot-2 220 pounds and seems to try to catch the football with his hands more often than not. Criner also does a nice job of blocking out the corner and getting in position to make the catch. He also made an impressive one handed grab on the sideline with a corner draped all over him. As for Jeff Fuller, he had more of a rough day struggling to get off the jam when the corners were allowed to play press. He wasn't very physical and allowed the football to get into his body too much. Dwight Jones looks the part of NFL wide receiver and caught nearly everything, but didn't really do anything that really stood out.

As for the quarterbacks, Oklahoma State's Brandon Weeden has been the best looking quarterback out of both squads. He's got what most teams would look for in a quarterback as far as the size and his arm, but everyone always brings up the fact that he's already 28-years old. Outside of that knock, he effortlessly put the ball in spots for the receivers to make plays on the football. The other quarterbacks in Arizona's Nick Foles and San Diego State's Ryan LIndley on the other hand were both pretty erratic. Foles has more than enough arm, but his accuracy was all over the place. He'd often overshoot receivers deep or throw the ball behind them on the shorter routes over the middle.

On the defensive side of the football, the South squad sports some impressive defensive backs. Despite being a smaller small school guy, Lousiana-Lafayette's Dwight Bentley drew a lot of attention from scouts after an impressive practice. Bentley didn't really get beat by much in coverage, and when he did it was simply because of excellent route running or getting boxed out by a bigger receiver. Vanderbilt's Casey Hayward and Markelle Martin had nice days. Martin broke on the football a few times from the safety position nearly picking the ball off.

On the defensive line, North Carolina's Quinton Coples had a nice practice playing at both defensive end and defensive tackle. The offensive line struggled to slow him down and he's got great size for the position at 6-foot-5 and 281 pounds. Alabama's Courtney Upshaw lived up to his impressive look and was tough for the South offensive lineman to block. In some plays, Upshaw would line up with his hand on the ground to rush the passer and get pressure and he also handled himself well playing stand up linebacker. He's definitely an impact player that is showing he's scheme diverse, which will do nothing but help his stock. Clemson defensive tackle Brandon Thompson also had an impressive day collapsing the pocket from the inside and stuffing running plays in the backfield.
http://www.sbnation.com/2012-nfl-dr...12-senior-bowl-practice-report-brandon-weeden
 
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