Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by VA_Finfan, Mar 20, 2013.
That's about right, but it is misleading. Rob Gronkowski is the best pass catching target in the division.
Moving in the right direction
Hartline has almost everything you want in a WR. Speed, smarts, route running, great hands etc. If he can just keep his feet and have better balance AFTER the catch, the Dolphins will have an outstanding 1-2 punch.
I agree completely but it was just focusing on WRs. Gronk is without a doubt the biggest pass catching weapon in the division.
Not bad rankings, though I think I would swap Hartline and Amendola.
He is a TE.
Exactly my thought when I read that list.
Looks okay...as is, except that one of em is a toxic clubhouse presence and another might well be a China Doll, which of course isn't subjectively factored in. Fortunately neither are ours.
As far as the "rater" this must be one of those 2X daily that broken clock gets it right.
Amendola to this point I would quite agree. Amendola being ranked shows u that there is a lack of wr talent in the division.
I feel kind of bad for Brandon Loyd he produced pretty well for his contract and still got cut
I like Amendola, but he is always getting hurt. I don't see how losing Wes Welker and gaining Amendola keeps the Patriots at the same level. When he goes down next season who do they have? It seems like no matter what the Dolphins do we can never be considered better by the media. Fortunately all we have to do is prove it on gameday.
I think Danny Amendola is probably a better player than Brian Hartline. Except when he's injured, which is more than half of the time. So yeah.
when stevie johnson was the best of the list prior to this offseason it kind of tells ya the afc east is not the best division for wr talent and players...
Thought that too.
If the Jets draft Patterson he likely goes to #2 on this list, and that's just sad.
Santonio Holmes is the best WR in the division, imo. Then Wallace. Then Stevie Johnson. Aaron Hernandez functions like a WR and defenses match him up like he is one. When healthy he's the #4 guy, probably. Maybe higher than Johnson.
The rest are not worth ranking.
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Give Stephen Hill another year and a legit quarterback and he makes the list, imo. Very talented guy.
I'd put Santonio Holmes 2nd in the division behind Wallace. I'd keep Amendola above Hartline as I do consider him a better receiver and more talented (when not injured).
no doubt hills talented but man is that kid raw...and he doesn't understand leverage and coverage all that well...fights the ball as well and loses physically at times down the field...
route running pretty average...but 2 years from now might be a monster...needs a lot of polish though...a lot
Sounds a lot like what we could be saying about Patterson a year from now, especially if he goes to a team with a ****ty quarterback like the Jets. That's all I'm saying.
Completely disagree. Holmes's game has dropped dramatically since leaving Pitt. Granted Dirty Sanchez throwing to him doesn't help. But added in the injury and I say Hartline over the last 3 years is a better reciever.
probably what we will be saying about patterson...
sanchez wasn't the only problem for hill in 2012 either...i saw a lot of running the wrong route vs the coverage he saw and with the wrong depth with hill...and he at times did sanchez no favors...although sanchez also missed a lot of big plays potentially with hill...but there was times there when i watched that kid i said to myself even if the balls on target he's got a 50/50 chance at making the catch...
just very raw...very talented and very raw
He was/is injured. Not a cripple. When healthy Hartline isn't in the same zip code as Holmes, who's still only 29. The reason people are down on him as a talent is Sanchez, period. Has nothing to do with him. And even with Sanchez throwing him the ball and missing 16 games over three years due to injury he's still amassed 1672 yards receiving to go with 15 touchdowns... compared to 2247 yards and an absolutely pathetic three touchdowns for Hartline.
No comparison. None.
I like Patterson's after catch ability *that much* more than I like Hill. I just love how Patterson plays. Very boom or bust, and when I'm high on a guy oh baby let it ride
Haha. Well, unless Hill gets some better quarterback play it'll take a while before we know whether he's going to be any good. Stephen Hill's rookie stats were almost identical to Bebe Thomas' rookie stats, and Thomas has turned into a fantastic player. As Confucious said, raw is raw but talent is also talent.