Alex Smith vs Ryan Tannehill

[superphin]

And ZERO championships and virtually no big wins. Ultimate underachiever.

He's won 12 playoff games and made it to a super bowl with McNabb, none of that counts as big wins? So who is the ultimate underachiever between Shula and Marino...the coach who couldn't win the big one with a top 5 QB all time or the QB who couldn't win the big one with a top 3 coach all time and was 8-10 in the playoffs?

Disclaimer I'm not saying neither Shula or Marino are to blame, but to assign blame solely on Reid is aching to assigning blame solely on Shula or Marino.

 

[Elle Clouds]

Just like Smith Tannehill has gotten better over his career but keep showing your true colors with these posts that have clear bias.

A quick google search will show your homerism is strong.

YARDS YDS/G TD INT RATING
2016 Miami Dolphins 2,995 230.4 19 12 93.5
2015 Miami Dolphins 4,208 263.0 24 12 88.7
2014 Miami Dolphins 4,045 252.8 27 12 92.8
2013 Miami Dolphins 3,913 244.6 24 17 81.7
2012 Miami Dolphins 3,294 205.9 12 13 76.1
YARDS YDS/G TD INT RATING
2017 Kansas City Chiefs 4,042 269.5 26 5 104.7
2016 Kansas City Chiefs 3,502 233.5 15 8 91.2
2015 Kansas City Chiefs 3,486 217.9 20 7 95.4
2014 Kansas City Chiefs 3,265 217.7 18 6 93.4
2013 Kansas City Chiefs 3,313 220.9 23 7 89.1

Looks like he will continue the trend of throwing double digit interceptions. Stop defending average. He will be off this team in a 2 years or be a backup. He just isn't good enough to win anything of significance. I'm ready to start turning over other stones, rather than continue the trend of the Dolphins. Stop settling for mediocre at the most important position.

 

[Despacio]

A quick google search will show your homerism is strong.

YARDS YDS/G TD INT RATING
2016 Miami Dolphins 2,995 230.4 19 12 93.5
2015 Miami Dolphins 4,208 263.0 24 12 88.7
2014 Miami Dolphins 4,045 252.8 27 12 92.8
2013 Miami Dolphins 3,913 244.6 24 17 81.7
2012 Miami Dolphins 3,294 205.9 12 13 76.1
YARDS YDS/G TD INT RATING
2017 Kansas City Chiefs 4,042 269.5 26 5 104.7
2016 Kansas City Chiefs 3,502 233.5 15 8 91.2
2015 Kansas City Chiefs 3,486 217.9 20 7 95.4
2014 Kansas City Chiefs 3,265 217.7 18 6 93.4
2013 Kansas City Chiefs 3,313 220.9 23 7 89.1

Looks like he will continue the trend of throwing double digit interceptions. Stop defending average. He will be off this team in a 2 years or be a backup. He just isn't good enough to win anything of significance. I'm ready to start turning over other stones, rather than continue the trend of the Dolphins. Stop settling for mediocre at the most important position.

Cool story. How about posting Alex’s stats his first seven season from 2005-2012 when he was tearing down the record books?!

 

[Fin Fan in Cali]

Cool story. How about posting Alex’s stats his first seven season from 2005-2012 when he was tearing down the record books?!

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SmitAl03.htm

http://www.nfl.com/player/alexsmith/2506340/careerstats

 

[SkapePhin]

Cool story. How about posting Alex’s stats his first seven season from 2005-2012 when he was tearing down the record books?!

There is no doubt Tannehill had a better first 5 years in the NFL than Smith... What is interesting is that Smith really only started to put things together in his 6th year...

 

[DolfanISS]

A quick google search will show your homerism is strong.

YARDS YDS/G TD INT RATING
2016 Miami Dolphins 2,995 230.4 19 12 93.5
2015 Miami Dolphins 4,208 263.0 24 12 88.7
2014 Miami Dolphins 4,045 252.8 27 12 92.8
2013 Miami Dolphins 3,913 244.6 24 17 81.7
2012 Miami Dolphins 3,294 205.9 12 13 76.1
YARDS YDS/G TD INT RATING
2017 Kansas City Chiefs 4,042 269.5 26 5 104.7
2016 Kansas City Chiefs 3,502 233.5 15 8 91.2
2015 Kansas City Chiefs 3,486 217.9 20 7 95.4
2014 Kansas City Chiefs 3,265 217.7 18 6 93.4
2013 Kansas City Chiefs 3,313 220.9 23 7 89.1

Looks like he will continue the trend of throwing double digit interceptions. Stop defending average. He will be off this team in a 2 years or be a backup. He just isn't good enough to win anything of significance. I'm ready to start turning over other stones, rather than continue the trend of the Dolphins. Stop settling for mediocre at the most important position.

So let me get this straight. In 4 out of his 5 first seasons, looks like there was an injury there as there is a gap in the stats, Alex Smith has the same trend of throwing double digit INT’s. He was able to buck the trend with more experience but Ryan Tannehill will definitely continue it. Based on what? Nothing more than your opinion?

 

[39wildman]

well football is over this yr for dolphins. this is good site to talk x and o.
smith is better qb because he know how take a team to playoff.
hope thill17 step his game up to next level of play in 2018.

 

[The Goat]

A quick google search will show your homerism is strong.

YARDS YDS/G TD INT RATING
2016 Miami Dolphins 2,995 230.4 19 12 93.5
2015 Miami Dolphins 4,208 263.0 24 12 88.7
2014 Miami Dolphins 4,045 252.8 27 12 92.8
2013 Miami Dolphins 3,913 244.6 24 17 81.7
2012 Miami Dolphins 3,294 205.9 12 13 76.1
YARDS YDS/G TD INT RATING
2017 Kansas City Chiefs 4,042 269.5 26 5 104.7
2016 Kansas City Chiefs 3,502 233.5 15 8 91.2
2015 Kansas City Chiefs 3,486 217.9 20 7 95.4
2014 Kansas City Chiefs 3,265 217.7 18 6 93.4
2013 Kansas City Chiefs 3,313 220.9 23 7 89.1

Looks like he will continue the trend of throwing double digit interceptions. Stop defending average. He will be off this team in a 2 years or be a backup. He just isn't good enough to win anything of significance. I'm ready to start turning over other stones, rather than continue the trend of the Dolphins. Stop settling for mediocre at the most important position.

A quick Google search will show everyone that you really enjoy cherrypicking...which is what you've always done.

Would you like to compare Alex Smith's FIRST FIVE YEARS to Ryan Tannehill's first five? Or should I do that for you?

 

[39wildman]

I will say this drew brees would of change the dolphins luck,,,,we have two winning season in ten yr..

 

[Vaark]

A quick google search will show your homerism is strong.

YARDS YDS/G TD INT RATING
2016 Miami Dolphins 2,995 230.4 19 12 93.5
2015 Miami Dolphins 4,208 263.0 24 12 88.7
2014 Miami Dolphins 4,045 252.8 27 12 92.8
2013 Miami Dolphins 3,913 244.6 24 17 81.7
2012 Miami Dolphins 3,294 205.9 12 13 76.1
YARDS YDS/G TD INT RATING
2017 Kansas City Chiefs 4,042 269.5 26 5 104.7
2016 Kansas City Chiefs 3,502 233.5 15 8 91.2
2015 Kansas City Chiefs 3,486 217.9 20 7 95.4
2014 Kansas City Chiefs 3,265 217.7 18 6 93.4
2013 Kansas City Chiefs 3,313 220.9 23 7 89.1

Looks like he will continue the trend of throwing double digit interceptions. Stop defending average. He will be off this team in a 2 years or be a backup. He just isn't good enough to win anything of significance. I'm ready to start turning over other stones, rather than continue the trend of the Dolphins. Stop settling for mediocre at the most important position.

Tannehill's last 8 games: 13TDs 4Ints, 100QBR 69%completion
add that for the season he had the 4th best QBR from a clean pocket and was the 4th most accurate long ball passer in the league and the narrative becomes different.. once Gase's system kicked in. Also did I mention that little thing called "scoreboard?" ya know thru that stretch 7-1?

 

[phins_4_ever]

Tannehill's last 8 games: 13TDs 4Ints, 100QBR 69%completion
add that for the season he had the 4th best QBR from a clean pocket and was the 4th most accurate long ball passer in the league and the narrative becomes different.. once Gase's system kicked in. Also did I mention that little thing called "scoreboard?" ya know thru that stretch 7-1?

i thought wins and losses is a team stat?

 

[hoops]

There is no doubt Tannehill had a better first 5 years in the NFL than Smith... What is interesting is that Smith really only started to put things together in his 6th year...

Allow me to interject that the defense oline and running game were top shelf the last few years of his San Fran run. Same thing they were for kaeps run before the wheels came off. It’s not hard to play winning football at qb when you have a top 5 run game and d hell the jags did it this year with bortles.

Andy Reid in kc designed an offense that fit smiths game well as in primary reads and predetermined throws but if you lose the catalyst in it all a mismatch te surrounded by little skill weapons at wr and no top shelf d due to attrition and age in some cases you go home.

 

[Sarnics13]

You won't see me claim that wasn't great..... but i didn't claim that no other QB ever makes great throws so I'm not sure what your point was. If you don't think RT can duplicate that Luck throw then you apparently don't watch the dolphins games. If there's anything he's top of the league in it's throws on the run.

 

[Vaark]

i thought wins and losses is a team stat?

sensu lato

 

[superphin]

Tannehill's last 8 games: 13TDs 4Ints, 100QBR 69%completion
add that for the season he had the 4th best QBR from a clean pocket and was the 4th most accurate long ball passer in the league and the narrative becomes different.. once Gase's system kicked in. Also did I mention that little thing called "scoreboard?" ya know thru that stretch 7-1?

Two questions, I can't find anything that says Tannehill was the 4th most accurate long ball passer...what website are you using? What do you consider good long ball accuracy? over 15 yards? over 20? What number is a good gauge in your opinion?