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Well, our pick position is now set at 12.
I agree that the win against Buffalo was totally meaningless. If we had lost that game we would be picking at #9, one spot ahead of the Jets in every round.

Jump all over me with that "you NEVER want to lose" B.S if you want, at this point I really don't care, and applaud the Colts for their balls to do it. They must be still crying over such a terrible year in 2011, not.

All I want is Philbin in, Ireland out, and cull the ineffective areas of the roster.
 
#12 pick...not bad...pretty happy about that actually...should be able to land a premium pass rush corner or wr talent with that pick...i got some targets
 
hooshoops said:
#12 pick...not bad...pretty happy about that actually...should be able to land a premium pass rush corner or wr talent with that pick...i got some targets
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would you have any issues "reaching" for a reciever at 12? I would be all for it bht the perception seems to be that its too high for Allen/Hunter.
 
TrinidadDolfan said:
Well, our pick position is now set at 12.
I agree that the win against Buffalo was totally meaningless. If we had lost that game we would be picking at #9, one spot ahead of the Jets in every round.

Jump all over me with that "you NEVER want to lose" B.S if you want, at this point I really don't care, and applaud the Colts for their balls to do it. They must be still crying over such a terrible year in 2011, not.

All I want is Philbin in, Ireland out, and cull the ineffective areas of the roster.
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Jump off a cliff for all I care. At the time we won that game we were still in the playoff hunt, so that win was not Meaningless.
 
uk_dolfan said:
would you have any issues "reaching" for a reciever at 12? I would be all for it bht the perception seems to be that its too high for Allen/Hunter.
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hunters awfully raw as a route runner but explosive as heck...i think it will be a few years before you get big return with him...keenan allen i think is ready from the jump...and fits a need...i keep hearing he's a pain in the rear off the field but just about all these wrs have had issues...so i don't know that would deter me...

i don't consider keenan allen a reach at #12...especiallu if he runs in the mid 4.5's or better like i think he will...

mingo would be my #1 target as a pass rush specialist...and i like jonathon banks at cb who would give this team something it desperately needs at cb...ball skills and instincts

it would be one of those 3 for me...banks has serious upside and terrific length...his best footballs in front of him imo
 
Wildbill3 said:
Jump off a cliff for all I care. At the time we won that game we were still in the playoff hunt, so that win was not Meaningless.
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Not only that, the difference between 9th pick and 12th is virtually nothing. Im sure if you look back there have been just as many good players and just as many busts taken in both slots. Its all about selecting the correct player when it is your turn to pick.

Having said that......

Hoops, Slimm, CK....??? Give me 10 guys who could potentially be the selection at that spot. Dont just give me players you want us to take or players at positions you think we should take. Give me 10 players who could be there at 12. Dont assume a guy will be taken 5th and leave him off the list.

I know I want to go offense with every pick this year, but I will discuss that more in the get real thread. I might be tempted to take a pass rusher at 12 depending on who is on the board at the time. I wouldnt reach just to take an offensive player.
 
How do you figure the Colts tanked on purpose? I hate assumptions like this. Total BS!!!
 
hooshoops said:
hunters awfully raw as a route runner but explosive as heck...i think it will be a few years before you get big return with him...keenan allen i think is ready from the jump...and fits a need...i keep hearing he's a pain in the rear off the field but just about all these wrs have had issues...so i don't know that would deter me...

i don't consider keenan allen a reach at #12...especiallu if he runs in the mid 4.5's or better like i think he will...

mingo would be my #1 target as a pass rush specialist...and i like jonathon banks at cb who would give this team something it desperately needs at cb...ball skills and instincts

it would be one of those 3 for me...banks has serious upside and terrific length...his best footballs in front of him imo
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Ok. I will spill a little of a get real spoiler here.

Again, I wouldnt reach just to take an offensive player at 12. If there is a dominant pass rusher there and he is the best player on the board, Id take him. But, looking at our cap situation and the amount of FA players available in both the secondary and pass rushing areas, I would be inclined to address the defense with all of that money we have. The defense is a veteran D and adding players through FA could be a good blend.

On the other hand, offensively we are relatively young and have a QB who will enter his 2nd year. I see what the Colts did with Hylton, 2 TEs, Ballard, and Luck. I would draft an entire crop of players who would grow together on that offense in Philbin's system. I may add a OL or two through FA, but I would also spend 2 or 3 later round picks on the OL as well. Those first 6 picks I want to go almost exclusively WR, TE, and RB. Skill position galore. Young talented players who grow together in the same system with Ryan Tannehill.

Put an offense together that will make us competative for years. The D is already good enough IMHO to let us compete for whatever goal we want to set. Every team can use more pass rush and more cover guys. Thats what defense is all about these days. You can never have enough. So Id love to add that, but our D is fine. If Mingo is the BPA and a WR is a huge reach at 12, I wouldnt have a problem taking Mingo. But, we need to draft at least 4 or 5 skill position players and a couple OL this year. I would also draft a kicker in the late rounds if there is another Blair Walsh or Legatron out there. If I want to improve the secondary or add a pass rusher, there are quite a few players available in FA and we have plenty of money to do it.
 
there will be solid depth at wr in the 2nd round...plenty of guys who can play in the pros...the pass rushers will go high and it's a good class for them...good ot class at the top also...corner kinda ehh no one that warrants a top 5 pick...if a premium pass rush talent gets to us jump on it...

mingos a top 5 bpa and premium pass rush talent imo all the way...you want upside that kid oozes it
 
TheColts did tanked, that's not even up for debate. Next you would be saying prove Roger Clemens used steroids. (Eyes rolling) BTW, I love your avatar, bugs is the best
 
some people have dee milliner as a target with that #12 pick i think ck and slimm are on board with that i'm not with them i don't think i'd hate it cause he's definitely talented and he's got length and all but i wonder if he's a little bit of a product of that defense in some regards...

anyways i'm sure he'd be on the list
 
hooshoops said:
there will be solid depth at wr in the 2nd round...plenty of guys who can play in the pros...the pass rushers will go high and it's a good class for them...good ot class at the top also...corner kinda ehh no one that warrants a top 5 pick...if a premium pass rush talent gets to us jump on it...

mingos a top 5 bpa and premium pass rush talent imo all the way...you want upside that kid oozes it
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I see Mingo as a beast as well. Its tough to figure Wake to be as dominant 2-3 years from now. Mingo would give us a nice 1-2 punch with Wake and a solid guy to take his place in a couple of years.

Stedman Bailey in round 3 is the steal of the draft. I would draft him as well as another WR.

Hoops, where do you see the ND TE and the Ertz kid from Stanford going? Id love to be in position to draft one of them, especially Ertz.

Im also very interested in the RB from Florida. Can he fall to round 4? Id take him with my other 3rd round pick if he is there. You cant have enough young talent at RB.
 
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