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Dolphins love Jared Odrick

It's not like Odrick would never see the field. Starks led with 730 snaps and Langford with 581 but Merling got 376 and McDaniel got 315. Odrick could replace either of those guys...or both. Which means he's out there on the field as much as just about any starting DL in the entire league.

A good defense doesn't have 11 starters. A good defense has about 13.
 
ckparrothead said:
It's not like Odrick would never see the field. Starks led with 730 snaps and Langford with 581 but Merling got 376 and McDaniel got 315. Odrick could replace either of those guys...or both. Which means he's out there on the field as much as just about any starting DL in the entire league.

A good defense doesn't have 11 starters. A good defense has about 13.
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that's like being a 7th defenseman on a hockey team. those guys usually end up playing more than the 5th and 6th defensemen.
 
ckparrothead said:
It's not like Odrick would never see the field. Starks led with 730 snaps and Langford with 581 but Merling got 376 and McDaniel got 315. Odrick could replace either of those guys...or both. Which means he's out there on the field as much as just about any starting DL in the entire league.

A good defense doesn't have 11 starters. A good defense has about 13.
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so you're taking what would likely early on at least be a backup de at pick #12??? i don't argue that odrick should be in consideration talent wise for the pick but he doesn't fill a real need imo...

i'm sorry...no way no how would i take a 3-4 end at #12 with what we have in house already

i'm filling another need with a premium player

if odrick is viewed as a nose i can probably get on board with that...but i'm not sure i see him as a nose worthy of pick #12...i see more of an end in a 3-4 no matter how much i try
 
Not gonna forecast it until I see it. He can take on double teams, for sure. Don't know if he'll knock single blockers to the ground with straight forward power, which would command the doubles.
 
They are planning on moving Merling to Solb..

Its gonna happen unless something goes drastically wrong..

He can lose the weight plus I am sure he would rather play linebacker since he was an edge guy at Clemson..

Odrick seems like a real good fit..

Tyson Jackson was taken very early last year..As well as Richard Seymour was before..

Parcells and company believe in that trickle down affect..

If have to be able to get pressure with 3 and 4 in this league to win..
 
I like Cam Thomas as a NT for us...

I think that would be sick to get Odrick in the 1st round..then get Thomas in 3rd round or so..

That would be a sick front 7 rotation
 
hooshoops said:
so you're taking what would likely early on at least be a backup de at pick #12??? i don't argue that odrick should be in consideration talent wise for the pick but he doesn't fill a real need imo...

i'm sorry...no way no how would i take a 3-4 end at #12 with what we have in house already

i'm filling another need with a premium player

if odrick is viewed as a nose i can probably get on board with that...but i'm not sure i see a nose worthy of pick #12...i see more of an end in a 3-4 no matter how much i try
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Of course the preference would be on different positions but if he grades as a can't miss guy and there aren't any other can't miss guys there, screw it, get a damn good player. You WILL benefit from a damn good player's presence on your roster. Just like a guy on viagra swimming the blankets with a woman WILL find the hole, even if he's blind.

What you don't want to do is end up trying to jam a mediocre player onto the football field. Like putting a clam in a coin slot.
 
FinAtic8480 said:
CK the guy has the exact build as Jay Ratliff
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Which isn't a reason to assume he IS the next Jay Ratliff.

Jay Ratliff is an uncommon player at the nose.

Don't confuse a negative for a positive. You still generally want a nose that has a more stout build than Jay Ratliff. He's the exception, not the rule.
 
FinAtic8480 said:
CK the guy has the exact build as Jay Ratliff
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Dallas plays a one gap system like the phins were doing last year....

Does this have any affect on what NT responsibltes are in a 3-4 defense as opposed to a 2 gap system?

Any idea what the phins will run with Nolan..

I read an article speculating he did both in Denver
 
ckparrothead said:
Of course the preference would be on different positions but if he grades as a can't miss guy and there aren't any other can't miss guys there, screw it, get a damn good player. You WILL benefit from a damn good player's presence on your roster. Just like a guy on viagra swimming the blankets with a woman WILL find the hole, even if he's blind.

What you don't want to do is end up trying to jam a mediocre player onto the football field. Like putting a clam in a coin slot.
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absolutely...and i'm banking right now at least on a guy in a different need position being there at pick #12

but i'm absolutely with you about the bpa period thing if you can't fill a need bpa...

reaching is how you get in trouble...
 
No ones saying he doesn't have the talent, they are saying we have more then enough talent at DE for Odrick to be a good pick for us at 12. Not when Dez, McClain, Thomas and even Spiller are as talented and fill a greater need for this team. By all means if our DE position was average then Odrick would make sense and hold great value.

This theory of BPA no matter what position makes little sense at certain times, should we go DE at our 2nd pick aswell because of BPA? Reaching is the problem when your desperate to fill a need, but fortunately for us there will be plenty of talent that fits a need at 12 that won't be reaching.
 
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