As I said before. CLark was really developing into a dominant force during last year's fiasco of a season for MIchigan, arguably only Bosa was a better DE in the conference than him. Then he had his domestic issues.
according to Tony Pauline, Andrus PEat won't make it out of the top 10, Rams supposedly will take him if he falls, while the Jets are also very high on him.
A little surprised teams are so high on Peat. Too awkward to trust - to me.
While everybody assumes the Giants are looking at OL, many around the league would not be surprised if they trade up for Dante Fowler or Leonard Williams if they get past 4.
If I were a Giants fan, that'd be close to worst-case scenario.
Not a rumor but an interesting stat. Onle 2 teams in the league have not taken a CB in the first round since 1998. Those teams are KC and Pittsburgh
Cardinals, Jags, and Bucs are all looking into potential trades for Adrian Peterson.
From those teams, I can see the value for the Cards and Bucs (assuming they draft Winston), but I think Bortles is too far away to give up picks for Peterson.
Shane Ray may fall as some teams feel he will need foot surgery. Dallas is one of the teams that took him off their board, but other teams feel that surgery is not needed.
Would not draft Ray in the first two rounds.
Do not be surprised if Kevin Johnson goes higher than most project.
I'd set his ceiling at 11 with Minnesota, but I'd guess he lands with Houston at 16.
Another guy who could go higher? Stephone Anthony. Rumors are several teams in the later part of round 1 have him ranked as the top ILB.
For a 3-4 team, I think he and McKinney look like the best options, so that doesn't surprise me. He could easily go to GB. They're big on athletic testing.
The Pats are looking at guard options. Supposedly the 2 they like the most are AJ Cann and Laken Tomlinson
I think the board is sleeping a bit on Cann as a potential option at 47. He should be a day-1 starter. I don't think he's getting to the end of the 2nd round, so if NE wants him, they'll probably draft him at 32. That, or they'll take either of Cann or Tomlinson if they slide.
I like Mariota far more than manziel. Bigger, faster, and has a quick release. And is no spoiled entitled rich kid with a cocaine habit.
Mariotas quick release IMO is being incredibly under appreciated.
Defenses have very little time to react to Mariota especially in Chips system, which is why chip wants him so bad. as a defense you'll have to gamble a lot vs him, and no matter how good you defense is, your going to pay multiple times per game with big plays.
I finally saw Gruden's quarterback camp with Mariota. Talk about a mixed bag. Mariota was miles the worst they've ever had in the introductory segment. No effort at all. Gruden said Mariota was on the verge of putting him to sleep with all the one-word answers. IMO, Gruden really should have taken it further than that. This show has been on the air for years as a known quantity. Invariably the player is familiar with the format and is enthusiastic to be there. Mariota acted like he was being charged with a crime and didn't want to divulge anything. Unfortunately the pre draft coverage in general is overly happy talk so there is very little criticism, which Mariota deserved in bunches.
On the other hand, once they got to the practice field Mariota looked incredibly smooth, natural and effective. Larger than my impression of him. Maybe he'll come out of his shell once he matures and becomes more comfortable with the spotlight. But if he's drafted into a major city with heavy media pressure and expectations, they're going to go nuts at Mariota's lack of material for them.
The point about Manziel being small is a good one. Every year some of these guys look different in pro uniforms than in college. I never know who it's going to be. Manziel in his few appearances seemed small and limited. His arm isn't great to begin with. Release gets lower all the time. Teams took away his roll outs left, which he prefers. With Manziel it's more about upping his game to fit the pro level than dealing with the off field issues.
and here's when people start hating NFL Draft Countdown and Scott Wright
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/ILB.php
I finally saw Gruden's quarterback camp with Mariota. Talk about a mixed bag. Mariota was miles the worst they've ever had in the introductory segment. No effort at all. Gruden said Mariota was on the verge of putting him to sleep with all the one-word answers. IMO, Gruden really should have taken it further than that. This show has been on the air for years as a known quantity. Invariably the player is familiar with the format and is enthusiastic to be there. Mariota acted like he was being charged with a crime and didn't want to divulge anything. Unfortunately the pre draft coverage in general is overly happy talk so there is very little criticism, which Mariota deserved in bunches.
On the other hand, once they got to the practice field Mariota looked incredibly smooth, natural and effective. Larger than my impression of him. Maybe he'll come out of his shell once he matures and becomes more comfortable with the spotlight. But if he's drafted into a major city with heavy media pressure and expectations, they're going to go nuts at Mariota's lack of material for them.
The point about Manziel being small is a good one. Every year some of these guys look different in pro uniforms than in college. I never know who it's going to be. Manziel in his few appearances seemed small and limited. His arm isn't great to begin with. Release gets lower all the time. Teams took away his roll outs left, which he prefers. With Manziel it's more about upping his game to fit the pro level than dealing with the off field issues.
and here's when people start hating NFL Draft Countdown and Scott Wright
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/ILB.php
Mariota isn't a very public person, or outspoken. Being a good public speaker and good football player really don't have any relationship. And Gruden camp has been garbage IMO since tannehills draft. The agents have to much control over it now, the QBs that I've watched Gruden throw up soft ball questions to, while praising them, is ridiculous.
As for manziel, last year before the draft I compared him to a glorified Case Keenum. A lot of people thought I was crazy for that comparison, but they probably didn't watch Case in college in that same system. He lite it up, and did a lot of that same running around in circles for no damn reason and throwing the ball up. There the same player for the most part, except one got famous for his "Johnny football persona", while other one played for a lesser watched team.
Fun stuff in college, but doesn't work in the NFL. It really boggles my mind his many believers there were in Manziel. Absolutely nothing special about him.
That's a laughable assessment of Gruden's show. Anyone who can't see the value in it is desperate to take the Bar Stool route even when it doesn't threaten to apply. Gruden does a fantastic job in shifting focus, from old plays they never expected to see again to light moments to serious criticism they didn't anticipate. For years on forums like this I've noted that posters don't actually watch the episodes but that doesn't prevent them from commenting. We already had a post in this thread ripping Mariota for chalkboard performance. That wasn't it at all. He did fine there. It was much earlier during the introductory segment when he refused to participate at all, other than listening and the occasional one word response.
Quite a coincidence that the Gruden show declined sharply as soon as Tannehill's class was out of there. Funny how that works on a Dolphins forum.
Yeah, I notice the anti-Manziel crowd chirping lately.
Personally I thought he did fine after Tanny's draft but he really hadn't had many qbs on to get excited about since.
But it is worth noting that a few agents aren't happy how Gruden's camp has magnified their clients weaknesses. .. funny ENOUGH Notre Dame still blames Gruden for Clausen falling and sucking...
More rumors... the Ras love Davante Parker but much like with Khalil Mack last year they may put the need to grab ol above the need for a differ position.
The Jets want to trade down. They are intrigued by Todd Gurley but they also want to upgrade the ol.
Houston wants to get a top wr but are refusing to part with their 2nd and 3rd round picks.
The Browns have Breshard Perriman as the number 2 WR in the draft.
Todd Gurley won't make it out of top 20