First Round Runningbacks

[fininpsl]

Okay, here are some first round CB's since 2008

1 11 Trae Waynes CB Michigan State Minnesota Vikings
1 16 Kevin Johnson CB Wake Forest Houston Texans
1 18 Marcus Peters CB Washington Kansas City Chiefs
1 27 Byron Jones CB Connecticut Dallas Cowboys
1 30 Damarious Randall DB Arizona State Green Bay Packers
1 8 Justin Gilbert CB Oklahoma State Cleveland Browns
1 14 Kyle Fuller CB Virginia Tech Chicago Bears
1 24 Darqueze Dennard CB Michigan State Cincinnati Bengals
1 25 Jason Verrett CB Texas Christian San Diego Chargers
1 31 Bradley Roby CB Ohio State Denver Broncos
1 9 Dee Milliner CB Alabama New York Jets
1 12 D.J. Hayden CB Houston Oakland Raiders
1 22 Desmond Trufant CB Washington Atlanta Falcons
1 25 Xavier Rhodes CB Florida State Minnesota Vikings
1 6 Morris Claiborne CB LSU Dallas Cowboys
1 7 Mark Barron DB Alabama Tampa Bay Buccaneers
1 10 Stephon Gilmore CB South Carolina Buffalo Bills
1 17 Dre Kirkpatrick CB Alabama Cincinnati Bengals
1 29 Harrison Smith DB Notre Dame Minnesota Vikings
1 5 Patrick Peterson DB LSU Arizona Cardinals
1 19 Prince Amukamara DB Nebraska New York Giants
1 27 Jimmy Smith DB Colorado Baltimore Ravens
1 7 Joe Haden CB Florida Cleveland Browns
1 20 Kareem Jackson CB Alabama Houston Texans
1 27 Devin McCourty CB Rutgers New England Patriots
1 29 Kyle Wilson CB Boise State New York Jets
1 32 Patrick Robinson CB Florida State New Orleans Saints
1 14 Malcolm Jenkins DB Ohio State New Orleans Saints
1 25 Vontae Davis DB Illinois Miami Dolphins
1 11 Leodis McKelvin CB Troy Buffalo Bills
1 16 Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB Tennessee State Arizona Cardinals
1 20 Aqib Talib CB Kansas Tampa Bay Buccaneers
1 25 Mike Jenkins CB South Florida Dallas Cowboys
1 27 Antoine Cason CB Arizona San Diego Chargers


Since 2008; wow! This might be an even bigger crapshoot. Someone else can post who from that group has been worth a first rounder

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And now LB's

1 3 Dante Fowler LB Florida Jacksonville Jaguars
1 8 Vic Beasley LB Clemson Atlanta Falcons
1 22 Bud Dupree LB Kentucky Pittsburgh Steelers
1 25 Shaq Thompson LB Washington Carolina Panthers
1 31 Stephone Anthony LB Clemson New Orleans Saints
1 5 Khalil Mack OLB Buffalo Oakland Raiders
1 9 Anthony Barr OLB UCLA Minnesota Vikings
1 15 Ryan Shazier OLB Ohio State Pittsburgh Steelers
1 17 C.J. Mosley ILB Alabama Baltimore Ravens
1 6 Barkevious Mingo OLB LSU Cleveland Browns
1 17 Jarvis Jones OLB Georgia Pittsburgh Steelers
1 24 Bjoern Werner OLB Florida State Indianapolis Colts
1 30 Alec Ogletree OLB Georgia St. Louis Rams
1 9 Luke Kuechly LB Boston College Carolina Panthers
1 18 Melvin Ingram LB South Carolina San Diego Chargers
1 25 Dont'a Hightower LB Alabama New England Patriots
1 26 Whitney Mercilus LB Illinois Houston Texans
1 28 Nick Perry LB USC Green Bay Packers
1 2 Von Miller LB Texas A&M Denver Broncos
1 7 Aldon Smith LB Missouri San Francisco 49ers
1 16 Ryan Kerrigan LB Purdue Washington Redskins
1 8 Rolando McClain MLB Alabama Oakland Raiders
1 19 Sean Weatherspoon OLB Missouri Atlanta Falcons
1 4 Aaron Curry LB Wake Forest Seattle Seahawks
1 15 Brian Cushing LB USC Houston Texans
1 18 Robert Ayers LB Tennessee Denver Broncos
1 26 Clay Matthews LB USC Green Bay Packers
1 6 Vernon Gholston LB Ohio State New York Jets
1 9 Keith Rivers OLB USC Cincinnati Bengals
1 10 Jerod Mayo ILB Tennessee New England Patriots


Not as bad of a list

Significantly more than 30% of those CB's were not busts. Your making the RB picks look bad, and the CB picks look good. Same with the QB position.

 

[BahamaFinFan78]

Significantly more than 30% of those CB's were not busts. Your making the RB picks look bad, and the CB picks look good. Same with the QB position.

Just thought I'd find some other first round positions for comparisons. The OP choose 2008, so I went with it.

 

[fininpsl]

double post

 

[fininpsl]

Just thought I'd find some other first round positions for comparisons. The OP choose 2008, so I went with it.

I was surprised at the % of CB's that were still starting. Some of them may be marginal starters, but they are still full time players. About 4 of them changed positions. But not a lot of complete busts really. Still at the end of the day no matter what position we go with if we get a great player who cares what the hit rate for the position is.

 

[Asicswrg85]

You can play that game with any position.

Incorrect. RB has the largest 1st round bust rate of any position

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[BahamaFinFan78]

Incorrect. RB has the largest 1st round bust rate of any position

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I agree that this may be true, but how do we define "bust"? I also believe RB is one of the few positions that you can get good value later on.

 

[AZStryker]

Significantly more than 30% of those CB's were not busts. Your making the RB picks look bad, and the CB picks look good. Same with the QB position.

Who exactly are the 10+ players that are quality players and not just fringe starters????

 

[fininpsl]

Who exactly are the 10+ players that are quality players and not just fringe starters????

From two or three posts down I say, "I was surprised at the % of CB's that were still starting. Some of them may be marginal starters, but they are still full time players. About 4 of them changed positions. But not a lot of complete busts really. Still at the end of the day no matter what position we go with if we get a great player who cares what the hit rate for the position is.", so yeah, I get that some of the CB's aren't elite. But the success rate at CB is FAR better than the success rate at RB. I mean it's not really close.

 

[Travis34]

Significantly more than 30% of those CB's were not busts. Your making the RB picks look bad, and the CB picks look good. Same with the QB position.

Not to mention the sheer amount of them drafted. That tells you a few things:

A- more players drafted = more will be busts
B- teams value the passing game and trying to defend it now, thus more teams are taking cb's early
C- far more guys in college coming out, per draft, at corner than runningback probably

 

[PhinSoldia]

You can play that game with any position.

can you? no position has been devalued more than RB's and THIS is the reason, i DO believe in getting Elliot but the stats are damning

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Not to mention the sheer amount of them drafted. That tells you a few things:

A- more players drafted = more will be busts
B- teams value the passing game and trying to defend it now, thus more teams are taking cb's early
C- far more guys in college coming out, per draft, at corner than runningback probably

absolutely agree with all of your points

 

[footsteps_falco]

If you go back to 2007, you will gain 2 additional studs in Adrian Peterson and Marshawn Lynch to add to the list.

If you take the 5 in which you declare as 'non-busts' out of the 17 names provided, you still have a hit percentage of almost 30%. Not entirely awful.

Add Adrian and Marshawn to the list and you are around 37% hit.

It is interesting that this was brought up, however, because believe it or not the top 4 rushers for total yards in 2015, were all 1st rounders. And if you look at the top 10 leading rushers in 2015, 6 of them were first rounders.

Yes i saw that, and reggie bush and a slew of other busts prior to those years. I decided to go from 2008 on as it seemed to my quick eye to be about the same ratio of "bust" to "non bust" and yes thats a subjective term.

I also would say just from glancing at the other lists that none seem to have thebust rate of RB lately.