Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by DKphin, Jun 27, 2017.
Nothing would make me happier than RT showing some fire and leadership on the field this season.
Idiots who doubt Tannehill: "See, it was good that I was blind for so long!"
The rest of us: smh
I think teammate and head coach are just saying right word. when it come to thill17. he is not elite. if he was elite dolphins would be winning afc east. the bottom line our head coach know he need thill17 to be on his best games to win this yr. this yr will tell us if dolphins are for real or not. we have not had gb in so long. some of our fan do not no want elite look like as qb.
Love how they're now keeping everything said, in house. No more leaking bullshit to the media!
Pffft, then will Brady suddenly not be elite? Cant have it both ways in this weird scenario.
Not much question left that he is a leader to this team.
let's be real. you don't know elite from dog****. So if he were 'elite' by your standards, we would then automatically win the afc east- (where 2 of the greatest in the history of game reside)???
who are the elite qb's in your book? I seem to recall drew brees is one of them, why has his team and miami had nearly the same record the last 5 years? He's an elite qb- he should have taken the saints the playoffs
Seriously, stop critiquing Tannehill. This "elite" nonsense needs to stop. As travis just pointed out with a simple comparison.
Not to mention your analysis is completely incorrect every time you give it.
"Elite" is a very sensitive word around these parts. I wonder when this term for qbs became mainstream...
One word, ridiculous !!!!!!
Unfortunately, emotion seems to indicate leadership and lack there of gets a lot of fans thinking he doesn't care. Fans get pissed after losses and after a down games from Thill but I would rather have a QB work at getting better than one who just gets mad and doesn't improve. Tannehill is improving but he's not elite or a top 5 QB and no one said he was. Thomas said he's taking the steps to be an elite QB and Thomas' definition of elite may be different than ours.
Who are you calling idiots?
it strange how some fan get mad when you know a player is not elite but they want say he is. if thill17 was he would be in top 100. he would be top 10. I want dolphins to win but I am not going boost player up if I know he is not all that. yes Ryan improved but so did Mat Moore. so what ur point. some of yall are trying give thill17 mvp without playing down. I want our qb to be elite but I am not sure he is avg???
Where/how did Moore improve? He beat the Jets and Bills (and made some poor decisions in the Buffalo game). Had 3 costly turnovers vs Pitt in the playoff game. Two when we were set to score. Doesn't matter that he went 29/36. He killed those drives.
he came in game and beat ari as well. yes moore lose game so did our defense as well. thill17 would lose game as well. we were just happy make playoff.
Please tell us who all calls him elite?
I don't even know what that is supposed to mean or how it is even a reply to what I said. But I'm calling you out because I'm tired of these bogus blanket statements with nothing behind them. (and clearly others are too) Tannehill is a damn good quarterback that has lasted through serious adversity, with the ability to be a top 10 qb. If that isn't "elite" I don't really care. I'd put him the 'above average' category up to this point in his career. Your posts are confusing- at times you will say he is 'a good qb' but follow it up with all these negatives. Or just make statements that indicate he isn't good enough - ie bad.
Top 100 huh? That's your barometer for elite play..
LOL, some people have zero hope.
After Tannehill had already lit up the Cards for 195 yds, 3 TDS on 15/20 passing in under three quarters....
He's so elite...
How elite is he!?!
He's so elite, his shoe contract is by Luftwaffe...
I really dislike the whole elite or not elite debate... it's so subjective. Everyone has a different definition of what is elite. If you think an elite qb will at minimum be considered for the Hall-of Fame based on their career work, I think we would all agree if Tannehill announced his retirement today he's not going to be considered for a bust in Canton. However if your definition is a qb that can make big plays and win games if given league average amount of protection and defensive support than Tannehill can be that. The whole elite or not elite is nonsense. Let's just say he's our qb, he's pretty damn good when surrounded with decent players and he's good enough to win games in NFL. Is my tv elite? Who knows? It works, I like the picture, it's big enough for me and it gets the job done effectively for my needs. That's all I need to know. The elite or not question is meaningless unless I just want to waste my time wondering what other people think of my tv.
He's so elite, there's an occupy movement outside his house...
He's got the Pope on speed dial.
Next year's Bilderberg meeting is being held in Davie.
His ego is really his super ego.
Miami was ahead 21-9 when Tannehill went out. The Cardinals rallied in the 4th to tie the score at 21-21 and Moore led them to a winning field goal. Now if Tannehill did the same thing would you be saying he won the game or he nearly lost the game after Moore left him with a 12 point lead?
You're welcome, Tannehill. I'm ecstatic that you raised your game.
There's only one clown in the dolphin circus of fans who accuses everybody of saying he's elite. Then goes on to argue about it.
No one called him elite. Read the article, he said he's taking steps towards being one. But every time there's a Tannehill thread you just have to pop in and ramble off more negative nonsense, don't you?
He's so elite those who sack him get charged with hate crimes.
If you're basing your evaluations on a straw poll that players spend about 20 minutes to complete then you're probably doing it wrong. You think Rob Gronkowski put a lot of thought into his list?
Alex Smith made the list (81). Does that make him elite with his 15 TD's and 8 picks?
Here is what we (most) know....
Tannehil AND the offense struggled as they implemented a brand new offense for 6 weeks.
The light turned on and Tannehill led a team that won 7 of his remaining 8 games where the QB had an average QB rating over 100 (102.7).
Matt Moore was Matt Moore. No better, no worse and certainly not as good as the starter.
That's the problem, he doesn't read enough to know better.
Tannehill is a very good QB with an elite level skill set.
I WOULD SAY OUR DEFENSE PLAYED LIKE SH!*
I was following along with you at first, because yes he has not shown himself to be a top 5 QB yet (to avoid or define "elite")...but then you say you are not sure he is Average? I'm sure he is above average, looking forward to this year to see him take it further...can only speculate what that will be at end of year, but closer to that top 5 I think.
This. I always disliked the whole "elite" thing. When did that start anyway?
There's really only one poster that's making an accusation that others are saying Tannehill is elite, and then make an argument that he's not when nobody said he was. Kind of an argument within himself, but a lot of us can't help ourselves and jump in.
All things point to a better Tannehill. Coach makes a huge difference. Some of Ryans deficiencies still exist under Gase but to a lesser degree. As stated by Gase, Tannehill needs to not take the checkdown so often and has to stop going through his progressions until he gets sacked. A more competative Tannehill hopefully translates to playoffs.
Top 100 is based on the ONE previous years performance. You honestly believe a player is defined as "elite" based on ONE year?
Seriously, your posts display ignorant analysis that show short sided views and lack of any semblance of fact. Quit creating an argument out of thin air and accusing everyone else of coming up with it. Just stop.
I'm pretty over the term "elite"
Every year there's at least 3-4 teams in the playoffs who fans, experts, and "experts" would say they have QB's who are "not elite", but alas, they're playing in the postseason.